>> The /service stuff did not work

As long as you can see in ps -ef that they are not showing up, you should be fine. No svscan, and no processes owned by qmail user id's.

>> a lot of commands I type in at the prompt do not seem to work

Let me know which ones. Maybe there are alternatives.

>> there are still several qmail processes running.

Did you comment out that line I mentioned. It should be under /etc/inittab. When you run "kill -HUP 1" it should reread the inittab file and not start any DJB processes.

Thanks again DB for all the help.

Here is the chkconfig line for qmail now:

qmail 0ff 1ff 2n 3n 4n 5n 6ff

The chckconfig command to turn it on worked, but I edited the /etc/init.d/qmail file anyway. I've completed all the instructions in your last post.

I'g going to have to quit for tonight (10:00 PM here), but here is one more question (I also assume there are more instructions to come):

In the /etc/init.d/qmail file, there are still several mentions of qmail-pop3d, such as:

reload|hup)
echo "Sending HUP signal to qmail-send."
svc -h /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
echo "Sending HUP signal to qmail-pop3d."
svc -h /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d
;;

And

pause)
echo "Pausing qmail-send"
svc -p /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
echo "Pausing qmail-smtpd"
svc -p /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
echo "Pausing qmail-pop3d"
svc -p /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d
;;

Should I not remove all references to qmail-pop3d from this file?? Should I replace them with vpopmail?? I have already deleted all the files and directories I could find that were qmail-pop3d.

Thanks

ummm, no you misunderstood.., maybe I confused you somewhere. You actually need qmail-pop3d. When a user wants to login to your system and check their email, qmail-pop3d is responsible for checking their username and password to be sure they are real users. Once they are approved, qmail-pop3d will download messages from their /home/vpopmail/domains folders and deliver the messages to the end user.

I hate to say it, but I'm afraid you may want to think about starting over. Don't get depressed. This stuff takes time. If anyone could do it, you'd have 11 year olds running servers! And I can also tell you that I went through this myself a couple of times before I finally got it right. The problem is... you're not used to seeing the output of these commands and you dont' know if everything is going like it should be going.

Just take your time and walk through each step VERY carefully and be sure you do exactly what it says. I know you've done this already, but after doing it again, you'll be faster because you'll know what to expect from these commands and you'll feel better about having done it right.

I also suggest dumping webmin for this. God only knows what kind of things webmin is doing to your configuration, and if it's doing something I dont know about, I may become lost and unable to help you because I dont know what things webmin has changed behind our backs. You should be able to install everything from a simple shell.

Another tip... don't just copy a hunk of commands and paste them into your shell window. Do each line at a time to be sure it works. You may also want to have a text window open and paste the same commands into there too, so eventually you'll have a script that you can run all at once and install a whole bunch of stuff knowing it will work fine because you've tested it already. This will allow you to start over and not lose much time because you've already got your commands sorted out.

On the bright side, it looks like you've got chkconfig all figured out! I can tell you're not comfortable using the command line, but believe me... once you get a good handle on it, you'll never use anything else. It's way too convenient.

Just hang in there... take it slow... and post back here when you hit even the smallest snag. I'm not going anywhere, and I dont mind helping. Yes it'll take a little longer, but once you've done it once, you'll never need anyone's help again because you'll KNOW what you're doing.

Hey, you know what... if you decide to start over, you might wanna start a new thread for this. There are some people subscribed early on to this thread who may not want to be anymore, and we can start off with a clean slate and when we're done, we can have a complete thread that explains how to walk through it. Just an idea.

See the new thread I started called "Starting From Scratch."

D.