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Old 06-20-2020, 09:35 PM   #16
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I appreciate your quick replies.


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Puppy does have repository where you can install programs.

http://wikka.puppylinux.com/PPM?redirect=no
thanks for replying so much it's very helpful. i have another question, if I do install puppy, can I install it on unallocated space while booting with windows 10 without installing another bootloader. Or do I have to install both of them to C: drive and use the puppy grub install.
 
Old 06-20-2020, 09:48 PM   #17
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Not in the traditional way. Puppy runs from RAM and upon shutdown you can save the session i.e. any changes to the OS etc. to a file on the had drive.
You can save files separately to the hard drive in the traditional way by mounting the filesystem.
Ok thanks I have decided I want to install it alongside windows 10 and booting from it using the windows boot manager. Is that possible or do I need to use a different bootloader? Also I have no idea if I install it on unallocated space or c: drive. Hope you reply. Thanks!
 
Old 06-21-2020, 06:35 AM   #18
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I have not tried using Windows boot loader to start linux in a long time. You need unallocated space.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...ws_boot_loader.

Another suggestion would be to run Puppy as a virtual machine.
 
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Old 06-21-2020, 08:24 AM   #19
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Just to point out that antiX also has an easy frugal install option.
I see that now. Thank you for the correction!
 
Old 06-21-2020, 08:26 AM   #20
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I have not tried using Windows boot loader to start linux in a long time. You need unallocated space.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...ws_boot_loader.

Another suggestion would be to run Puppy as a virtual machine.
I second that suggestion. I have run DOZENS of distributions in VirtualBox. If you are not replacing Windows, it is an excellent option that avoids all bootloader issues.
 
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PS. Puppy is extremely good at doing the persistence thing. It takes very little hard drive space, and is not dependent upon where Puppy start from. If you read the documentation and how-to documents about Puppy, you will see that this is all a WHOLE lot easier than native-installing it to a hard drive.
 
Old 06-27-2020, 05:02 PM   #22
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PS. Puppy is extremely good at doing the persistence thing. It takes very little hard drive space, and is not dependent upon where Puppy start from. If you read the documentation and how-to documents about Puppy, you will see that this is all a WHOLE lot easier than native-installing it to a hard drive.
OK guys I succesfully booted but now there isn;t any wifi. this happens to me in every linux ive tried including lubuntu, antix, and deepin os. I tried installing the drivers aand it didn't work. My wifi card is Realtek RTL821CE 802.11ac PCIe adapter.
 
Old 06-27-2020, 06:42 PM   #23
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now that you have it installed, you may get more visibility if you open a new thread specifically for getting your adapter to work. there are several solved threads here on lq related to that adapter (if the second part is RTL8821 instead of 821). if puppy is based on ubuntu, this one may help.
 
Old 06-27-2020, 07:23 PM   #24
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@ respectablenoob:-

You can quite happily run Puppy from the USB stick, while at the same time 'saving' to a save-file/save-folder on your HDD. The only downside to this is you're then limited to always running Puppy on that machine.....which kind of defeats the whole point of running her from a USB stick in the first place!

As wpeckham says, Puppy was "made" for running like this, right from the very first Puppy Barry Kauler built from scratch, almost 16 years ago.

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If you want to "install" Puppy to the hard drive - without disturbing Windows 10 - then take a look at this thread on the Puppy Forum:-

LICK - Puppy Linux Windows installer : from noryb009

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404

What this does is to "install" a 'frugal' Puppy actually inside your Windows install, in such a way that Windows completely ignores it, and isn't bothered by it in the slightest. It also adds a boot Menu, giving you the choice of whether to boot into Windows or Puppy.....

(With regard to the RTL8812CE driver, if you try Bionicpup64 8.0 - the current "flagship" Pup - the driver for your PCI-e card is directly downloadable/installable via 'Quickpet'. See this thread:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117596

.....and a re-boot should have it up-and-running.)

Hope that perhaps helps.


Mike.

Last edited by Mike_Walsh; 06-27-2020 at 07:36 PM.
 
Old 06-28-2020, 03:20 AM   #25
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@ respectablenoob:-

You can quite happily run Puppy from the USB stick, while at the same time 'saving' to a save-file/save-folder on your HDD. The only downside to this is you're then limited to always running Puppy on that machine.....which kind of defeats the whole point of running her from a USB stick in the first place!

As wpeckham says, Puppy was "made" for running like this, right from the very first Puppy Barry Kauler built from scratch, almost 16 years ago.

--------------------------------------

If you want to "install" Puppy to the hard drive - without disturbing Windows 10 - then take a look at this thread on the Puppy Forum:-

LICK - Puppy Linux Windows installer : from noryb009

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404

What this does is to "install" a 'frugal' Puppy actually inside your Windows install, in such a way that Windows completely ignores it, and isn't bothered by it in the slightest. It also adds a boot Menu, giving you the choice of whether to boot into Windows or Puppy.....

(With regard to the RTL8812CE driver, if you try Bionicpup64 8.0 - the current "flagship" Pup - the driver for your PCI-e card is directly downloadable/installable via 'Quickpet'. See this thread:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117596

.....and a re-boot should have it up-and-running.)

Hope that perhaps helps.


Mike.
thanks for your time, LICk sounds good and i'll download that wifi adapter thanks again!
 
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:52 PM   #26
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What machine are you running, OP? And how much RAM is in it?

Recommend running only from USB stick. On say, a 16GB stick, partition 4GB as FAT32, the second partition the remainder in size formatted to the ext2 file system.

Savefile at shutdown to ext2 partition (most likely /dev/sdb2) as a FILE and not a directory. Use encryption if you want. This savefile will be where the applications chosen other than built-in apps will be saved, NOT the hard drive. make size of savefile one gig, especially if Libreoffice is desired.

You must familiarize self with puppy's built-in apps especially the utilities. You will need to use a few of them.

Do you understand what all prior LQ members have been telling you?

antiX with persistence is probably easier to grasp than puppy, a dog of its own.

Best wishes!

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