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Old 12-10-2002, 05:56 PM   #1
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Question Problems with Mandrake 9.0

System specs:

eMachines T1980
AMD Athlon XP 1900+ (1.6Ghz)
76gig HD


VIA VT8375 (North Bridge)
VIA VT8233A (South Bridge)
Integrated Audio Controller in VT8233A


This post is more than likely going to be quite long, so I'll apologize in advance...

Alright, I resized my XP partition with PartitionMagic 8.0, and installed Mandrake 9.0 on my other partition (20gigs). Resizing went fine, installation of Mandrake went great, and my first boot up was fine, as well. I can open up just about all of the apps, and mess around with them. But there are a few things that are making my introduction to Linux less-than-stellar.

For one, I'm not getting any sound in KDE at all. With Gnome, I get a few weird bleeps and such, but that's it. Mandrake is detecting both my DVD-ROM and my CD-RW, and I can actually play an audio CD or mp3 in XMMS or any other audio player, I just don't get any sound. I ran 'sndconfig' and got the following:

PCI Probe Results:

A PCI sound card was found in your system. The details are:

Model: VIA Technologies lVT8233
[AC97 Audio Controller]

I press enter, and get this:

The VIA Technologies lVT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] is not currently supported.


Am I right in assuming that this isn't good? I suppose it means that this version of Mandrake (and obviously all others, because this is 9.0) doesn't support my sound card. But if there's a driver or anything I need here, I'd be quite grateful if someone could point me in the right direction.

Okay, on to my next problem. All four of my USB ports show up in the MCC, but the devices attached to them don't. I have a printer attached via USB, and my Alcatel SpeedTouch USB ADSL modem is connected, as well. Neither one of these are being recognized. Every time I attempt to autodetect my printer, I just come up with "Printer not found", and I've tried manually setting it up as well. My ADSL modem's lights aren't on at all. I ran 'usbview' and came up with this:

Serial Number: e000
Speed: 12Mb/s (full)
Number of Ports: 2
Bandwidth allocated: 0/900 (0%)
Total number of interrupt requests: 0
Total number of isochronous requests: 0
USB Version: 1.00
Device Class: 09 (hub )
Device Subclass: 00
Device Protocol: 00
Maximum default endpoint size: 8
Number of configurations: 1

Configuration Number: 1
Number of interfaces: 1
Attributes: 40
MaxPower Needed: 0mA

Interface Number: 0
Name: hub
Alternate Number: 0 Class: 09 (hub )
SubClass: 00
Protocol: 00

Number of endpoints: 1
Endpoint address: 81
Direction: In
Attribute: 3
Type: int
Max Packet size: 8
Interval: 255ms

Two of these were visible, so Mandrake -is- recognizing all four of my ports. Seems like it just doesn't know what to do with them.

My last problem is with Xine. Every time I attempt to run it, the whole system freezes up. The black screen and the remote control pop up, and everything freezes. Can't even move my mouse. Any ideas?

If I can get all of this fixed, I think I might be a Linux convert, because from what I've seen so far, the flexibility, customization, and developer-friendly environment are just what I need. Now if I could only listen to Gwar, watch Evil Dead II, and use the internet with something faster than my dinky 56k modem
Old 12-10-2002, 06:01 PM   #2
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Welcome to LQ.

Try opening up a terminal (the thing that looks like a dos box) and changing to root (type: su root, enter roots password) and then type modprobe snd-via8233 and post any errors you get here. If you don't get any errors, then type play /usr/share/sounds/generic.wav and hope to hear some sounds.
Old 12-10-2002, 06:51 PM   #3
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I tried what you suggested, and I don't really know exactly what happened.. Let me see if I can explain..

I opened up a terminal, got into root, and typed modprobe snd-via8233. It didn't seem to do anything. Hopefully this is a good thing, and it means that it loaded without any errors or something to that effect.

I then typed play /usr/share/sounds/generic.wav, and this is where it got weird.. Nothing seemed to happen, but I didn't get another [max@localhost] or anything. It just sat there, with a cursor at the beginning of the last line. I left it there for a bit, to no avail, and eventually just closed out the terminal. But, when I logged off of Mandrake, I got a "beep, beep, beep" sound coming through my speakers. Is this 'generic.wav'? A series of beeps? If so, why is it playing only when I log out? Seems weird...

On another note, I can't seem to find the CD Player in KDE, to test my sound card every time I try something new. It used to be in multimedia-->sound, but it's not there anymore. Any other way to access it?

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Old 04-17-2003, 06:19 AM   #4
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me too, what do ?
Old 04-17-2003, 06:46 AM   #5
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Check the permissions on /dev/audio*, dsp*, midi*, mixer* and sequencer*.
Old 04-18-2003, 06:07 AM   #6
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i don't no the midi ?? why ??
my distribution is mandrake 9.1

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Old 04-18-2003, 09:31 PM   #7
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sound issues

i think that man 9.0 is buggy i have a soyo mbo with the same sound chip during my first install it list the chip but would not use it then i had to reinstall it and it used the sound chip just fine in fact it would mount the vfat partition when it would not support it during the first install and when i went to use it today it would not run x in fact it could not find x at all try downloading the newest kernal patch and recompile it go online if you can and print off documentation or go to the library and get a book on linux
Old 04-18-2003, 10:13 PM   #8
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Originally posted by malty-x
i don't no the midi ?? why ??
my distribution is mandrake 9.1
You might not do any midi work, but some programs that you run as a user may want to access the midi device, and if they don't have permission then you won't hear anything.
Old 04-19-2003, 05:07 PM   #9
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it don't fonction, i have download alsa 0.9.2, and i lisen to "cruchhh" that retry.
Old 04-19-2003, 07:57 PM   #10
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Would agree with other posters: Mandy is a buggy distro, they rush stuff out without sufficient testing. You, and I, are not the only ones to think so. I mean, vs. 9.1 has been out a fortnight on download, and I've had about fifteen bug-fixes notified already - at least one of which (the broken MandrakeClub urpmi) had been noted as a bug in 9.0 months back!

Still you gotta love'em; they are genuinely *fully* GPL'ed and have a massive and loyal community support - have you checked out 'Mandrake Expert' - you don't have to subscribe to anything, or pay a single penny, to benefit here. Go Mandy! Tho' I am now beginning to wish sincerely that they were not rpm based....

Anyway, back to the point ... after a frustrating few weeks when I was sure it was a bug, in the end I got sound on Mandrake 9.0 KDE/kscd without doing anything drastic - turned out to be a simple device-name problem, plus a general (and very minor) linux hardware prob.

First: Check out the configuration of kscd - what device does it name as the source for your cd sound? In my install I found it was looking for /mnt/cdrom - which is very weird really, since the one thing you don't do with an audio cd is mount it (you can only mount data sources). The required location was actually /dev/scd0 (the device-name Mandrake assigns to my cd-rw).

Check /etc/fstab (# cat /etc/fstab) to discover what device name the system gives to your player, and alter your kscd configuration to that device name rather than /mnt/anything.

Second : did you know that linux (*any* linux) requires you to have a dedicated audio cable connecting your cd player to the sound card? This is a general OS requirement, not distro specific.

Windoze doesn't work this way, and it catches a lot of people out (including me).

If you want to check whether you have such a cable, if you have no sound when your configuration seems correctly set, find a set of headphones with a 3. 5mm jack ('phones off a walkman will work fine) and plug them into the headphone socket on your cd player. Fire up kscd, listen - if you have sound on the 'phones but not on speaker, you can be pretty sure that you have the minor hardware problem described. If so, get down to your local computer store and buy and install the appropriate cable.

If you don't want to open your box, buy instead a stereo cable with a 3.5mm jack on either end, and plug one end into the cd player 'phones socket and the other into the audio *input* socket of your sound card ('mic' socket). Then try kscd again - you should have sound.

Oh btw...shoulda said. Before trying any of this stuff - do you get that snatch of drums'n'bass on firing up KDE? If you have music (or 'music' perhaps) at this point, your sound card really is working, and you must have some form of configuration or hardware problem.

If you don't, I've been talking off the point all this time, and can only wish you good luck


currently listening to a cd with kscd...with an external cable! One day, I'll get used to the idea of opening my box....


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