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Old 08-26-2009, 08:45 AM   #1
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Problem with Desktop Effects (KDE 4.3) | Deiban/Gentoo | ATI Radeon HD 3870


I didn't quite know whether I needed to post this in this section or in the hardware section, however here is my problem. (Unforunately I'm unable to provide any logs)

I recently installed Gentoo on my computer (minimal install, without using genkernel)
And I wanted to test KDE 4.3, and successfully installed it. Sadly I wasn't able to use the Destop Effects so I tried various things like uninstalling and reinstalling my ati drivers, then I tried to use the open source ones.

I thought this all was due to my inexperience emerging masked package and more generally using Linux. So I decided to install a Linux Distro which already included kde 4.2 (or 4.3).
I ended up with downloading Debian-testing-KDE, and had the same problem, again I tried to solve it searching and searching on forums. (I couldn't install the ATI proprietary drivers, at some point of the installation I had a message that looked like this "Build of ati-fglrx-src failed".

So I'm sorry I can't give you any logs, but I posted this mainly to know:
Does my ATI HD 3870 not work with the Linux drivers? (if it does I will post requested logs)

Have you experienced the same kind of problems?

Sorry, if I've wasted your time this isn't a very good thread and it lacks a lot of information.

Any help is appreciated

(I've read it should work)
Old 08-26-2009, 09:54 AM   #2
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At their site (AMD) it appears that the graphics card you mentioned is supported by their driver, so as such it should work. You have generally two ways of installing the driver: either installing a distribution-specific package, usually from the reposities, or by downloading the driver directly from the ATI (AMD) site and doing it manually. Instructions should be included, but overall it's usually easier if you use the package manager of the distribution..if it fails, you should try to do it manually (it's not that hard, just upgrading the driver or kernel is slightly more complicated, or rather "less automatic", than usually). Second thing then is if the KDE/QT code, the driver and your card work well together; this new KDE version has had a bunch of problems with graphics accelaration and desktop effects, a lot of it with nVidia, but apparently with ATI too to some extent -- so it could be that too. I suggest reading KDE website if they happen to have any information about your card (or ATI in general) there. nVidia was pretty much useless except for some card models until this 4.3 version; with my card the desktop worked barely without the special effects, with them not at all. At the moment it mostly works, but some small things are horrible (KDE blames nVidia, but I'm not so sure if it's all that black&white..since KDE 3 and Gnome and others worked well, they could surely have done more than just the standards).

In short, try to install the driver directly from ATI if you can't do it through package management, and read KDE news to see if there are workarounds. If it's unbearable, just don't use KDE or simply buy a cheap graphics card that is known to work.
Old 08-26-2009, 10:16 AM   #3
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ATI HD 3870 has known issues with X server 1.4, most users had it solved with distros running 1.3. However that was a year ago. Current drivers may have already solved it. If you wished an easy install Debian based distro with a KDE windowing try Linux Mint click here, it has its own application to hunt for ati driver from the internet and install it automatically.

These links may help you how to overcome AD 3870 problem: Phoronix, Arch, also this, this, and this.

For latest ati driver get it from here.

Hope this helps.

Good luck.
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Thank you for answering. As a matter fact, I emerged fglrx on gentoo and that worked well. But i tried using both way to install the drivers on debian and neither of them worked.

I won't try it again on gentoo because installing one takes a lot of time but I will open a new thread with my specific problem on debian.

Thank you a lot for all your help
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