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Old 09-07-2008, 10:02 PM   #16
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Check the questions at the end of my previous post first. I need to know whether you have a direct connection or not.
 
Old 09-07-2008, 10:20 PM   #17
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I don't know if I have a static IP address or not? I guess it is possible. Below is a link of the cable modem I am using if that helps? Is there anything I can do to find out if I have a direct connection? Thanks again for your patience.

http://www.scientificatlanta.com/Pro...ms_drivers.htm
 
Old 09-07-2008, 11:22 PM   #18
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I would just give static a try. It won't break anything and it is easily switched back. Did you install Gnome or KDE?
 
Old 09-07-2008, 11:27 PM   #19
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kde, i have tried static and manual, nothing works
 
Old 09-07-2008, 11:37 PM   #20
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Did you enter all the data exactly as they are on windows: ip address, mask, gateway and nameserver?
 
Old 09-08-2008, 12:30 AM   #21
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Every thing but the name server, it was not there....
 
Old 09-08-2008, 01:06 AM   #22
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So that would explain a lot. You need to find your ISP's nameserver(s). You could give them a call but nine chances out of ten you can find that information on their site or doing a google search.

You could also give openDNS a try if you really can't find the information.
https://www.opendns.com/start

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Old 09-08-2008, 06:03 AM   #23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kcb4365640 View Post
O.k I gave up on that network adaptor...so I did "modprobe tulip".

I also went into yast and it looks like it saw it as well.
It now looks as if the ethernet card itself is completely working, which is good, but..
Quote:
When I went into edit it under the module name it says tulip. After it was done I clicked Finsh, and got an error that says "Cannot access installation media
(Medium 1)
Check whether the server is accessible. The details say "Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/distibution/11.0/repo/n
Error code:
Error message: Coudn't resolve host 'download.opensuse.org'.
I don't know if this info helps anyone, but it doesn't mean much to me. Thanks again for any help.
Yast is looking for something which is not currently installed: it looks in two places
  • the installation medium (CD/DVD, etc)
  • the SuSE website
This stage may work if you have the install medium available when you try it. The network approach won't work, because the network is not yet set up, which is a bit of a catch 22.

Quote:
02:07.0 Ethernet controller: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
...still good...

The trouble now is that, although the ethernet card is fully recognised this doesn't mean that the rest of networking works I'm not completely clear about what is going on.

I'm guessing that you have an ethernet connection to something like a modem/router and that has, say, an ADSL link to your ISP. 'Static IP address' has two meanings in this context and you have be careful which is which:
  • Your ISP may be handing out a static IP to the internet-addressable side of your internet interface. You normally have to pay the ISP extra for this (so you would know that you have it, but that is sometimes included as part of the plan, so that isn't quite a universal rule). This is useful, but not totally essential if you want to access your system from the outside world.
  • On your local network, you may not be 'hard coding' the IP address of each ethernet interface in config files but they could be being picked up from a server somewhere on the network (this may be the same box as your internet interface).

If you can ping a remote server on the internet by IP and not by name, that would confirm that nameserving is the problem. e.g, these should both work, but I'd bet that the first form currently doesn't.

Code:
ping www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (216.239.59.103) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=30.6 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=42.9 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=3 ttl=246 time=32.9 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=4 ttl=246 time=37.4 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=5 ttl=246 time=35.1 ms

--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4004ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 30.641/35.827/42.959/4.218 ms
Code:
ping 216.239.59.103
PING 216.239.59.103 (216.239.59.103) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=43.8 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=54.6 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=3 ttl=246 time=29.1 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=4 ttl=246 time=36.3 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.59.103: icmp_seq=5 ttl=246 time=35.9 ms

--- 216.239.59.103 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.116/39.989/54.638/8.690 ms
My current best guess is that your computer does not know how to resolve names and that once this is set up, everything should be fine. It is possible that the ADSL interface (m/r) already knows how to resolve, so setting its IP as your nameserver is a possibility (or finding out what it uses by looking in its set up). Alternatively, set it up in resolv.conf and skip the midddle man. If the the m/r doesn't know, get the info from your isp.
 
Old 09-08-2008, 11:04 AM   #24
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I should have said this before (my bad!) but there is another suggestion, which didn't seem relevant to the problem as originally stated.

Some distros do a better job of setting up networking than SuSE (& I like SuSE, but, historically, this has been a weak point) and now you have a network card that we know works with Linux, the 'quick and dirty' way of getting the right details for networking may be just to try a live CD. ('A good chance of working' rather than 'guaranteed to work', but given that is nearly zero effort, if you have already the CD, so its worth a try.)

I'd reccommend giving Knoppix a go and see how it does, but any of the Debian-derived distros (*buntu, mepis...) seems to have a better rate of success out of the box than SuSE. If this does work, just copy resolv.conf and anything else you think that you need, over to the SuSE installation.
 
Old 09-12-2008, 10:59 PM   #25
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I'm back... I tried to reinstall OpenSuse 11.0 again after I wiped out the previous partitions in the hope that it would automatically detect my PCI network card, but it didn't work.

I looked at Knoppix, but I wasn't sure exactly what to download (their was a lot of files, but I didn't know which one/ones to download)? Can you send me a link to an excutable file that I can put on a CD and use it to boot up on my computer? If I get this to work, then I will probably need more help trying to move the files over to OpenSuse. I also tried to "ping", but was unscuccesful at either try. See below.

I also tried what jay73 said about trying the static IP address. It gave me the error message "Cannot access installation media". I looks like it is trying to access opensuse.org?

If anyone else has any other ideas I would greatly appreciate them. Thanks.



kbaker@linux-vknp:~> su
Password:
linux-vknp:/home/kbaker # /sbin/ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:70:15:AB:2E
inet6 addr: fe80::21a:70ff:fe15:ab2e/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:4697 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:1
TX packets:28 errors:4 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:8
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:321028 (313.5 Kb) TX bytes:6408 (6.2 Kb)
Interrupt:19 Base address:0x9000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:2360 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2360 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:192884 (188.3 Kb) TX bytes:192884 (188.3 Kb)

linux-vknp:/home/kbaker # /sbin/route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
linux-vknp:/home/kbaker # cat /etc/resolv.conf
### BEGIN INFO
#
#
### END INFO
#
search site
linux-vknp:/home/kbaker # cat /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-eth0
BOOTPROTO='dhcp'
MTU=''
REMOTE_IPADDR=''
STARTMODE='auto'
BROADCAST=''
ETHTOOL_OPTIONS=''
IPADDR=''
NAME=''
NETMASK=''
NETWORK=''
USERCONTROL='no'
linux-vknp:/home/kbaker # PING www.1.google.com
bash: PING: command not found
linux-vknp:/home/kbaker # ping www.google.com
ping: unknown host www.google.com
linux-vknp:/home/kbaker # ping 216.239.59.103
connect: Network is unreachable
linux-vknp:/home/kbaker #
 
Old 09-13-2008, 03:08 AM   #26
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Quote:
It gave me the error message "Cannot access installation media". I looks like it is trying to access opensuse.org?
It failed to connect so it couldn't do the updates.

Could you check whether the driver was loaded? (lsmod)

If the driver was loaded, then we are still looking at a configuration problem.

Also,you appear to be using dhcp again, which did not seem to work at all:
Quote:
BOOTPROTO='dhcp'
Have you been able to determine all your network details? I mean, IP address, mask, gateway?

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Old 09-13-2008, 03:28 AM   #27
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Yeah i found a web site that let me put in my ip address and it gave me all the info i needed, it still came up with that error message i posted the last time....
 
Old 09-13-2008, 03:39 AM   #28
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OK, just to be clear. You said you have no problems if you use windows. Is this the same computer or do you run windows on another one? Because clearly you cannot have two computers using the same IP address.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 04:12 PM   #29
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I used to use windows on the computer I am trying to get Suse to work on. I have been using my work laptop now that has windows to get on the internet until I get my home computer working again. Thanks.
 
Old 09-13-2008, 04:37 PM   #30
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OK, I've done some further research. The NIC really works but it appears to produce some sort of hardware conflict that prevents DHCP from kicking in. I would suggest two things:
- go into BIOS and make sure that your onboard NIC is disabled
- edit /boot/grub/menu.lst; add pci=noacpi or even acpi=off to the line that starts with "kernel ..."; save and reboot.
 
  


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