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Bullzeye 08-24-2003 12:05 PM

permission denied
I am trying to mount a folder called checkit on an ntfs drive. The drive should be hdb . Problem is even though logged in as root I get a permission denied message... any ideas?

qwijibow 08-24-2003 12:09 PM

you cannot write to ntfs partitons.

so the drive will be mounted as read only, EVEN to the root user.

i have no idea why linux cannot write to ntfs, but it cant.

however it can write to FAT32, i surgest you use that FS for disks to be shared between linux and windows.

MasterC 08-24-2003 12:31 PM

How are you trying to mount it? Which distro are you using?


Bullzeye 08-24-2003 12:44 PM

I'm using debian. As root, I typed "/dev/hdb /mnt/checkit" checkit is the folder that has the driver packages for my sound and video card to use in linux. I don't need nor want write permissions on that drive, I just want to get those files off from it.

MasterC 08-24-2003 12:49 PM

Ok :)

First, you'll need to be root to mount.
Second, make sure the mount point /mnt/checkit exists.
Third: You will need to mount a partition, not the entire drive. If the drive only has 1 partition, it'll be hdb1. You can use:
fdisk -l (FDISK -L lowercase) to find out what partitions are existing on your system.
Fourth: You'll need to specify the filesystem with the mount command:
mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/checkit
Fifth: This will mount the entire partition, then from there you'll move around the directories to the checkit folder and do your business ;)


Bullzeye 08-24-2003 05:12 PM

THX GUYZ! I got the drive mounted (or should I say / of that device) but it seems that the folders are not accessible.
One thing that I am sure will give me a prob is the the folder I am trying to access has a space in it. Do i type in qoutes so the kernal knows it should have a space? I tried these cd /check it ; cd check it ; cd "check it" when I list the directories they all said :No Such Directory ?!?!?!

leonscape 08-24-2003 05:16 PM

When theirs spaces but a \ (backslash next too z key usually) before the space.

cd check\ it

Its best not to write to ntfs partitions, Linux support is still experimental. MS won't release the info needed to make it work fully, so its all guessing! So it might destroy your disk.


Bullzeye 08-24-2003 05:18 PM

I am not wanting to write to it. I want to copy the driver packages out of that folder onto the linux drive and install them

leonscape 08-24-2003 05:22 PM

No insult are anything intended. Its just That I dread ntfs partitions. Had to reinstall Win2k becuase of this, (I put it on fat32 partitions).

So I always warn people. (and you never know who might be reading and not know this.)

Bullzeye 08-24-2003 05:29 PM

i hear ya man, i don't need to lose that drive out of em all ;) I still can't seem to access any of the folders. when I type "dir -l |more" it lists all the folders but says the don't exist.....

if they don't exist how would it know they are there?

DrOzz 08-24-2003 05:32 PM


Originally posted by leonscape
When theirs spaces put a \ (backslash next too z key usually) before the space.

do you have a picture of your keyboard, or a link to the site....cause as far as i know the z key is on the totally oppostie side of the board in comparison to the \ backslash key...anyways i am just curious to see a picture....just never heard of that before :D

leonscape 08-24-2003 05:35 PM

Try remounting it, (cd to / first otherwise you might get a device busy.)

Its buggy so its to be expected, also what kernel are you running?

(To find out type uname -r)

leonscape 08-24-2003 05:40 PM

Its a UK keyboard so the next to bottom line is

[Shift] [ | \ ] [Z] [X] ........ [M] [< ,] [> .] [? /] [Shift]

Also tilde is next to ~ the enter key.

Back slash \
Forward Slash /

DrOzz 08-24-2003 05:55 PM

cool, never knew that :D thx

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