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Old 05-18-2006, 08:19 PM   #1
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Question NTFS in linux.


Hello. My name is Ram and I am quite computer savvy.
I know a bit here and there about Linux. I installed Ubuntu on this computer today as dual boot. After some trouble with installing GRUB I finally got it working. My question is this:

I want to see my regular, NTFS drives. I want to just be able to manipulate the files on these drives as if I was in WinXP. I want to have something like "My Computer", where I go in and I see all my drives as icons, and then I can go in and browse them and play my music collection etcetra.

I heard about all kinds of NTFS stuff, and I was freightened by needing to compile something, I'm not sure.

Is the thing that I want weird, or esoteric? Do I really have to go around doing all kinds of terminal work to get this to work? I mean, all this community is building something that's trying to compete with Windows, and Windows is really a pretty disgusting monopolizing totalitarian mess in my opinion. I don't expect Linux to be perfect, but I do expect it to give me access to my computer similar to like I'm used to without me needing to set up all kinds of configurations. Sorry for letting my rage out on you guys, it's just that I'm pretty confused and somewhat angry about this.
 
Old 05-18-2006, 08:35 PM   #2
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Linux doesn't support writing to ntfs (yet). It can read, however, so you can create entries in the fstab for them.
 
Old 05-18-2006, 08:37 PM   #3
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Create entries? Can you please tell me which button to push in order to see my drives normally?
 
Old 05-18-2006, 09:03 PM   #4
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do a search here or on google for editing fstab, there are a bunch of posts on that beccause it has been asked way too many times and since you are "quite computer savvy" it should be a simple matter for you.
 
Old 05-18-2006, 09:15 PM   #5
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1) burningGpi is incorrect, linux supports safe NTFS writing since 2.6.15.

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Do I really have to go around doing all kinds of terminal work to get this to work?
Yes

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I mean, all this community is building something that's trying to compete with Windows
No, we're not. Common misconception but yeah, that isn't the aim of the linux community at all so perhaps you may need to reevaluate your position. This is a good read that will clear some stuff up
 
Old 05-18-2006, 09:19 PM   #6
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It does? I need to upgrade my kernel
 
Old 05-18-2006, 09:59 PM   #7
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Thanks for the comments everyone.

Alright, no more criticism from me about what Linux should be. You think Linux has no reason to make Win users comfortable, be my guest--that's your opinion.

Now just tell me if there is a distribution of Linux which DOES attempt to mimic Windows, at least in some respects. I heard about Linspire and I am downloading it, hope it will be better in this respect.


And my personal opinion: the user should have all the power to tweak everything in the system. But power is useless without self confidence. Power should be given little by little, every time you give the user power to do something, you let him fully adjust to the system and be comfortable with it before you introduce another flexibility. For example if I was given more power in XP now it would have been great, because I am self-confident in it. How am I supposed to get confident in Linux?

Thank you very much for your comments.
 
Old 05-18-2006, 10:07 PM   #8
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how did you get confident in Windows? From using it. So, that is what you need to do with Linux. With Linux, you have complete control over your system. You can do whatever you want with it. Take a look at gnome-look.org and kde-look.org. They have lots of themes available and you can make your computer look exactly like windows(appearance wise). Linux is not Windows, it does not attempt to mimick windows. If you want something more like XP look at reactOS. If you aren't prepared to learn, aren't prepared to be frusterated at times(i still do!! lol),and/or don't have the time, perhaps you should stick with MS.
 
Old 05-18-2006, 10:10 PM   #9
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read and experiment. Linux is not xp. Linux while having nothing against xp, could give a hoot whether it mimics it or not. The fact the some of the gui controls are the same comes down to just plain common sense.
 
Old 05-18-2006, 10:33 PM   #10
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just to add to this, so maybe you get an idea that we're not having a go at you, just some people do feel passionate about linux or the desktop they use...
Microsoft and linux are not the inventors of the desktop and both have followed along lines of utilizing something that is the trend in pc's...
so there is no argument really...microsoft and linux copy but hey, its good sense to utilize something into an os if it will benefit people.
 
  


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