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maripa 05-14-2002 12:49 PM

not enough memory for graphical installation interface???
Today I had my first "contact" with Linux, trying to install red Hat 7.2 on a PC (pentium II 300MhZ, 32MB RAM, with ATI Rage 128 (16MB) in a PCI slot). Why the graphical Installation Interface cannot start??? (It says that I have not enough RAM, but it recognizes ATI rage 128). I know that I could install in text mode, but before I would try to solve this trouble . Someone can help me? (sorry for my english, I hope you understand!)
Thank you all,

jglen490 05-14-2002 01:02 PM

At the boot prompt, try entering: nofb

maripa 05-14-2002 01:25 PM

not enough RAm for graphical installer
I have tried with "nofb", and with "lowres" just now, but the result is the same.
I started with an older video card (matrox MGA-G100 AGP, with only 2MB!), then I installed the Ati Rage, with the same result.
The exact messages are:
"You do not have enough RAM to use the graphical installer. Starting text mode"
"Probing for video card: ATI Rage 128"
"Probing for monitor type: MCM 1706 NTD" (the same setting as in Wind95)
"Probing for mouse type: generic 3 buttons mouse"
Unfortunately it is impossible ti read the messagges that scroll befor these.
My doubt is: which RAM is not enough?
BIOS recognizes 32MB, regularly, but linux??? are 32MB too small?

OK, definitely, Is it better that I install in text mode (sigh!)??

neo77777 05-14-2002 01:35 PM

Yes it tends to be too small, I'd recommend to proceed with installation at this point, there is nothing scary in text mode install. And I'd suggest not running KDE or GNOME on this machine it'll cough.

finegan 05-14-2002 06:40 PM

Redhat got a little high and mighty for 7.2. The problem lies in the 32 Mb of regular old board RAM. During install RH takes a huge section of ramdisk and puts a miniature temporary file system on that RAMdisk. When they designed the last install they got a little greedy and with the RAM necessary for the filesystem, the ammount of buffer for install from CDROM to hard disk, and the ammount the kernel and loader were going to use, they had to up the minimum ammount of RAM necessary for graphical installation. Remember that after its installed, everything is going to be running off of the hard-disk so none of this garbage matters after installation, it'll let you install KDE or Gnome without a problem, heck I had them running on old grumpy P133 16Mb RAM laptops without too much of an issue.

More RAM might be a really good idea if you ever want KDE or Gnome to run well, but depending on where you are in the world that could actually be a real expense.



maripa 05-15-2002 02:05 PM

Thank you for your suggestions: I increased the RAM from 32MB to 128MB and the graphical installation started!!
I am only surprised because linux is known to run well on old small machines! I have a new trouble, that I sent in Linux General, and I think it will not be the last!!!


dorward 05-15-2002 02:16 PM

Linux runs very well on low end machines, things just get a little different when you have high end stuff running on Linux.

Red Hat really is aimed at higher spec machines, I use Debian across the board (partially for that reason).

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