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snakecreepsdown 05-09-2005 05:33 AM

no sound in slackware 10.1
 
Hi everyone
I am new to linux and have installed slack 10.1 from this months linuxFormat magazine.
I have managed to configure mst things (gfx, wine, access to ntfs drives etc) but am totally stuck with sound.
I have read pages, followed guides but to no avail, so I am hoping that someone will please be able to point out where I am going wrong.
My soundcard is a Terratec EWS88MT ------- ice1712 chipset I believe


Here is code from lsmod:::::
Code:

nyghtowl@snake_creeps_down:~$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by    Tainted: P <--- tainted??? that cannot be good!
snd-seq-oss            23840  0 (autoclean)
snd-seq-midi-event      3264  0 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq                35056  2 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-pcm-oss            36640  1
snd-mixer-oss          12376  0 [snd-pcm-oss]
parport_pc            15044  1 (autoclean)
lp                      6404  0 (autoclean)
parport                22824  1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
usb-ohci              19368  0 (unused)
ehci-hcd              17516  0 (unused)
usbcore                58860  1 [usb-ohci ehci-hcd]
forcedeth              9868  0 (unused)
snd-intel8x0          18272  1
tulip                  39200  1
crc32                  2880  0 [tulip]
snd-ice1712            40932  2
snd-ac97-codec        58396  0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ice1712]
snd-pcm                54568  0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ice1712 snd-ac97-codec]
snd-timer              13764  0 [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx      1392  0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-cs8427              5512  0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-i2c                2252  0 [snd-ice1712 snd-cs8427]
snd-mpu401-uart        3136  0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-rawmidi            12480  0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device          3812  0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi]
snd-ak4xxx-adda        3436  0 [snd-ice1712 snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx]
snd                    32772  2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ice1712 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-timer snd-cs8427 snd-i2c snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidisnd-seq-device snd-ak4xxx-adda]
snd-page-alloc          4680  0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-i2c snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd]
soundcore              3396  12 [snd]
nvidia              3643836  6
ide-scsi                9392  0
ntfs                  51232  2
agpgart                45092  3



Here is cat /etc/modules.conf:::
Code:

nyghtowl@snake_creeps_down:~$ cat /etc/modules.conf
# ALSA portion
        alias char-major-116 snd
        alias snd-card-0 snd-ice1712
        # module options should go here

        # OSS/Free portion
        alias char-major-14 soundcore
        alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

        # card #1
        alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
        alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
        alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
        alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
        alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss


and, finally, the result of soundchk.sh:::
Code:

nyghtowl@snake_creeps_down:~$ soundchk.sh

soundchk.sh v1.08 - Running Sound Configuration Checks


Today is Mon May  9 11:22:46 BST 2005
Sound tested by nyghtowl


== Identifying System ==
Linux 2.4.29 #6 Thu Jan 20 16:30:37 PST 2005 unknown GNU/Linux
model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
cpu MHz        : 2004.569
MemTotal:      774784 kB
SwapTotal:      497944 kB

== Checking dsp devices ==
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root          5 2005-05-06 15:03 adsp -> adsp0
crw-rw--w-  1 root    sys    14,  12 2003-08-29 08:47 adsp0
crw-rw--w-  1 root    sys    14,  28 2003-08-29 08:47 adsp1
crw-rw--w-  1 root    sys    14,  44 2003-08-29 08:47 adsp2
crw-rw--w-  1 root    sys    14,  60 2003-08-29 08:47 adsp3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root          4 2005-05-06 15:03 dsp -> dsp0
crw-rw--w-  1 root    audio  14,  3 2003-08-29 08:47 dsp0
crw-rw--w-  1 root    audio  14,  19 2003-08-29 08:47 dsp1
crw-rw--w-  1 root    audio  14,  35 2003-08-29 08:47 dsp2
crw-rw--w-  1 root    audio  14,  51 2003-08-29 08:47 dsp3

== Checking mixer devices ==
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root          5 2005-05-06 15:03 adsp -> adsp0
crw-rw--w-  1 root    sys    14,  12 2003-08-29 08:47 adsp0
crw-rw--w-  1 root    sys    14,  28 2003-08-29 08:47 adsp1
crw-rw--w-  1 root    sys    14,  44 2003-08-29 08:47 adsp2
crw-rw--w-  1 root    sys    14,  60 2003-08-29 08:47 adsp3
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    sys    14,  11 2003-08-29 08:47 amixer0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    sys    14,  27 2003-08-29 08:47 amixer1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    sys    14,  43 2003-08-29 08:47 amixer2
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    sys    14,  59 2003-08-29 08:47 amixer3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root          4 2005-05-06 15:03 dsp -> dsp0
crw-rw--w-  1 root    audio  14,  3 2003-08-29 08:47 dsp0
crw-rw--w-  1 root    audio  14,  19 2003-08-29 08:47 dsp1
crw-rw--w-  1 root    audio  14,  35 2003-08-29 08:47 dsp2
crw-rw--w-  1 root    audio  14,  51 2003-08-29 08:47 dsp3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root          6 2005-05-06 15:03 mixer -> mixer0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    audio  14,  0 2003-08-29 08:47 mixer0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    audio  14,  16 2003-08-29 08:47 mixer1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    audio  14,  32 2003-08-29 08:47 mixer2
crw-rw-rw-  1 root    audio  14,  48 2003-08-29 08:47 mixer3
crw-r--r--  1 root    root    13,  0 1997-04-30 00:04 pcmixer

== Checking Knotify ==
[StartProgress]
Arts Init=true
KNotify Init=true
Use Arts=true

== Checking Driver ==
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev c1)
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
01:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: IC Ensemble Inc ICE1712 [Envy24] (rev 02)

== Checking Actual Driver in Use (/etc/modules.conf) kernel 2.4 ==
        alias char-major-116 snd
        alias snd-card-0 snd-ice1712
        alias char-major-14 soundcore
        alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
        alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
        alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
        alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
        alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
        alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

== Checking Actual Driver in Use (/etc/modprobe.conf) kernel 2.6 ==

== Checking alsa /dev/snd ==
controlC0  hwC2D0    midiC0D4  midiC2D0  midiC3D4  pcmC0D4c  pcmC1D2c  pcmC2D0c  pcmC2D6c  pcmC3D4c
controlC1  hwC2D1    midiC0D5  midiC2D1  midiC3D5  pcmC0D4p  pcmC1D2p  pcmC2D0p  pcmC2D6p  pcmC3D4p
controlC2  hwC2D2    midiC0D6  midiC2D2  midiC3D6  pcmC0D5c  pcmC1D3c  pcmC2D1c  pcmC2D7c  pcmC3D5c
controlC3  hwC2D3    midiC0D7  midiC2D3  midiC3D7  pcmC0D5p  pcmC1D3p  pcmC2D1p  pcmC2D7p  pcmC3D5p
hwC0D0    hwC3D0    midiC1D0  midiC2D4  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D6c  pcmC1D4c  pcmC2D2c  pcmC3D0c  pcmC3D6c
hwC0D1    hwC3D1    midiC1D1  midiC2D5  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D6p  pcmC1D4p  pcmC2D2p  pcmC3D0p  pcmC3D6p
hwC0D2    hwC3D2    midiC1D2  midiC2D6  pcmC0D1c  pcmC0D7c  pcmC1D5c  pcmC2D3c  pcmC3D1c  pcmC3D7c
hwC0D3    hwC3D3    midiC1D3  midiC2D7  pcmC0D1p  pcmC0D7p  pcmC1D5p  pcmC2D3p  pcmC3D1p  pcmC3D7p
hwC1D0    midiC0D0  midiC1D4  midiC3D0  pcmC0D2c  pcmC1D0c  pcmC1D6c  pcmC2D4c  pcmC3D2c  seq
hwC1D1    midiC0D1  midiC1D5  midiC3D1  pcmC0D2p  pcmC1D0p  pcmC1D6p  pcmC2D4p  pcmC3D2p  timer
hwC1D2    midiC0D2  midiC1D6  midiC3D2  pcmC0D3c  pcmC1D1c  pcmC1D7c  pcmC2D5c  pcmC3D3c
hwC1D3    midiC0D3  midiC1D7  midiC3D3  pcmC0D3p  pcmC1D1p  pcmC1D7p  pcmC2D5p  pcmC3D3p

== Checking if Module Loaded ==
snd-seq-oss            23840  0 (autoclean)
snd-seq-midi-event      3264  0 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq                35056  2 (autoclean) [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-pcm-oss            36640  1
snd-mixer-oss          12376  0 [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-intel8x0          18272  1
snd-ice1712            40932  2
snd-ac97-codec        58396  0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-ice1712]
snd-pcm                54568  0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ice1712 snd-ac97-codec]
snd-timer              13764  0 [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx      1392  0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-cs8427              5512  0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-i2c                2252  0 [snd-ice1712 snd-cs8427]
snd-mpu401-uart        3136  0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-rawmidi            12480  0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device          3812  0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi]
snd-ak4xxx-adda        3436  0 [snd-ice1712 snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx]
snd                    32772  2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ice1712 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-timer snd-cs8427 snd-i2c snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidisnd-seq-device snd-ak4xxx-adda]
snd-page-alloc          4680  0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-i2c snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd]
soundcore              3396  12 [snd]

==> Test for run levels not available on this system !

== Checking if Sound Volume muted ==
vol 100, 100, P
line 100, 100, P
mic 100, 100, R
cd 100, 100, P
igain 100, 100
line1 100, 100, P
dig1 0, 0
phin 100, 100, P
phout 100, 100, P
video 100, 100, P

== Checking artsd setup ==
nyghtowl  3730  3713  1 09:58 ?        00:01:09 artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a oss -d -b 16 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
nyghtowl  3740  3730  0 09:58 ?        00:00:00 artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a oss -d -b 16 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f

== Checking which program uses the sound card or cdrom ==
                (no output is okay)
./soundchk.sh: line 138: /bin/fuser: No such file or directory
./soundchk.sh: line 139: /bin/fuser: No such file or directory

== Test wav file . . . . . please wait ==
sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy
Did you hear the soundfile Yes/No ?:no
You typed:  no  Thanks !

== End of Checks;-)

When I have tried to specify the ALSA driver in KDE, i get a sigserv fault with no backtrace details... then the same error when I try to specify another driver method.

I know the card is fine - I am still using it in winblows with cubase. Ideally, I would like to ditch cubase and begin to record my music in linux... hence the OS change.

Some may say "why not go for an easy-peasy distro like mand or RHfed blah blah"
Well, thing is, I won't learn much if everything is set up for me already now will I?

I know this is a big question, but if anyone who replies and recognises the errors etc, could you please help to point out the lines of code/errors to help me understand a little better?

Thanks in advance

Peace-Out

freakyg 05-09-2005 10:42 AM

Code:

== Checking if Sound Volume muted ==
vol 100, 100, P
line 100, 100, P
mic 100, 100, R
cd 100, 100, P
igain 100, 100
line1 100, 100, P
dig1 0, 0
phin 100, 100, P
phout 100, 100, P
video 100, 100, P

is your sound output digital or analog??

snakecreepsdown 05-09-2005 10:56 AM

thanks for reply...

It is analog afaik - I connect using standard phono plugs and small spkr jack for my monitors.



{edit} is that TAINTED up near the top of any significance?

halo14 05-09-2005 12:03 PM

I assume so, but have you tried 'alsaconf' to see if it recognized the card and sets it up for you?? Likewise, have you tried 'alsamixer' to see if it will pull it up and you can tinker with the volume controls??

snakecreepsdown 05-09-2005 12:33 PM

aye
Have just run alsaconf as root
then alsamixer and set all channels to max - still the sound of silence :confused:
the card/chipset appears in alsaconf - hmmmm there are two entries for the card.

There's an entry for the onboard sound too - which I find confusing as it is disabled in BIOS (o_O)

this is probably something really dumb that I have not done... some step I have missed or somethin' :scratch:

Anyway...thanks for the help so far (-.o) , I sure hope a solution will present itself else I'll be forced to stick with cubase and thus winblow$

on a different note, its a 2.4 kernel... should that make a difference?

Its all good fun is this lil learnin curve :study:

halo14 05-09-2005 02:12 PM

though you cranked up the mixers, did you make sure un-mute them?? Slackware by default mutes the speakers.. on the bottom of each mixer bar, Master and PCM being themost important, make sure you have the infinity symbol rather than 'MM', if you do, simply hit the 'm' key to unmute..

tuxrules 05-09-2005 02:17 PM

I had the same problem after slack 10.1 install. After some searching and posting it in dropline forums...I ended up solving the problem. I believe 10.1 comes with alsa 1.0.8 however I had a working soundcard with alsa 1.0.5 in slack 10. Hence i removed alsa 1.0.8 and compiled and installed alsa 1.0.5 from source. My sound card is working perfect now.

I have a Intel AC'97 Audio.

Tux,

snakecreepsdown 05-09-2005 02:35 PM

Code:

┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────[AlsaMixer v1.0.9rc3 (Press Escape to quit)]──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ Card: TerraTec EWS88MT                                                                                                                                                        │
│ Chip: Wolfson WM9703,WM9707,WM9708,WM9717                                                                                                                                      │
│ View: [Playback] Capture  All                                                                                                                                                  │
│ Item: Output Sensitivity                                                                                                                                                      │
  ┌──┐    └──┘              │
│    │OO│    │OO│    │OO│    │OO│    │OO│    │OO│    │OO│    │OO│    │OO│                                                            │OO│    │OO│                      │
│    └──┘    └──┘    └──┘    └──┘    └──┘    └──┘    └──┘    └──┘    └──┘                                                            └──┘    └──┘                      │
│  100<>100 100<>100 100<>100 100<>100 100<>100 100<>100 100<>100 100<>100 100<>100                    100<>100 100<>100    100      100                        100              │
│  Multi 1  Multi 2  Multi 3  Multi 4  Multi 5  Multi 6  Multi 7  Multi 8  Multi 9  Multi Tr Multi Tr Multi Tr Multi Tr Multi Tr Multi Tr Multi Tr Multi Tr Multi Tr<Output S>

That ^ is the R/H part of the mixer and
Code:

Card: TerraTec EWS88MT                                                                                                                                                        │
│ Chip: Wolfson WM9703,WM9707,WM9708,WM9717                                                                                                                                      │
│ View: [Playback] Capture  All                                                                                                                                                  │
│ Item: 3D Control - Center                                                                                                                                                      │

│                                                                                                                                                                                │
│                                                                                                                                                                                │
│    100      100                        100      100      100      100      100      100      100      100      100      100      100      100      100      100      100    │
│ <3D Contr>3D Contr  IEC958  IEC958 1  ADC    ADC 1    ADC 2    ADC 3    ADC 4    ADC 5    ADC 6    ADC 7    DAC    DAC 1    DAC 2    DAC 3    DAC 4    DAC 5    DAC 6    │
│                                                                                                                                                                                │

is the L/H side -- i've erased the level meters for ease of posting

all up max... all infinity symbols and no mm

So, I'm going to now try to step back to1.0.5 alsa as tuxrules suggests.

Now... to find out how to uninstall in slackware heheh :study:

Peace Out

halo14 05-09-2005 02:45 PM

pkgtool!!!

snakecreepsdown 05-09-2005 02:47 PM

hmmm pkgtool y'say?

okey-dokey... ty



edit:::: hehe thats a cool nice tool. Only took me 2 goes to realise i have to su it :newbie: ROFL I must be improving *cough*

:study:

halo14 05-09-2005 02:55 PM

hehe.. :D glad to be of help

Soulful93 05-09-2005 02:56 PM

I've alway's had to work to get my laptop sound working in Slackware.

I usually just recompile alsa, and then add snd-intel8x0m to /etc/hotplug/blacklist. Do the volumes reset themselves everytime you go into alsamixer? Make sure you using

Code:

alsactl store
after you turn your volume up with alsamixer.

__J 05-09-2005 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snakecreepsdown


{edit} is that TAINTED up near the top of any significance?

your nvidia module is what is tainting the kernel. all it means is that non-gpl code is loaded into the kernel, and if you experience problems the kernel team probably won't help you much ( hard to see what is causing a problem if part of the code is closed and you cannot see the internals.)

snakecreepsdown 05-09-2005 03:31 PM

just moved back to alsa (+utils etc) 1.0.5 and still nada on the sound.

When i mute/unmute channels in kmix ican see it happening in alsamixer in terminal...

i am totally confused and will prolly give up tonight lol

thanks for the suggestions so far, everyone

freakyg::: analog and digi ins/outs

___J ::: thanks for that info... at least I now know not to worry about it as I think you're saying its nvidias closed code? arent you? :) if I understand correctly

snakecreepsdown 05-10-2005 03:43 AM

UPDATE

after a nights sleep, I decided to start the day by installing DROPLINE-Gnome

guess what...

with a minor bit of tinkering, I can now get sound from the outputs on the breakout box WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

which is wierd... cos when I had it running in SuSe I could only get sound from the lil jack (for headphones) at the rear of the card... the breakout-box was not configured.

So, all I have to do now is verify that the other 6 outs and 8 ins are working
:study:
oh yes,,, and MIDI too - shouldn't be too taxing on the ole grey-cells:scratch:

Then finally I'll be downloading Jack, ardour and some other funky music tools and all shall be sorted :D

thing is... I'm using an OSS drv...
please, is ALSA better?


Peace Out


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