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OldyMan 10-02-2021 01:12 AM

No Googlechrome update
 
Hello everybody,
OS Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.2 / 64bit. When I perform system update / upgrade, the same operations are not done for Google-Chrome. It is required to be installed again. This symptom appeared recently. Does anyone know why ??? I also did it through terminal.

Rickkkk 10-02-2021 01:05 PM

Hi OldyMan - Welcome to LinuxQuestions.

To begin, I have 2 questions for you which may help us advise :
  • Which version of Linux are you using, Mint ? You mention Cinnamon, but this is simply a desktop environment (GUI).

  • Could you provide the message that you are getting mentioning that Chrome is not being updated ?

Thanks,

Rick

enigma9o7 10-02-2021 02:22 PM

Rick's questions will determine if you installed the google chrome deb or rpm.
Whatever you tried in terminal tho, please share if you want help.

If you install the deb, it will add google's repositories to your sources

Code:

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ###
# You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.
deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main

Then it will update along with everything else when you apt update/upgrade.
Code:

$ apt policy google-chrome-stable
google-chrome-stable:
  Installed: 94.0.4606.71-1
  Candidate: 94.0.4606.71-1
  Version table:
 *** 94.0.4606.71-1 500
        500 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


ondoho 10-02-2021 03:33 PM

Don't use Chrome. On Linux, use Chromium. It's in your repositories.

enigma9o7 10-02-2021 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 6288484)
Don't use Chrome. On Linux, use Chromium. It's in your repositories.

Of couse, this is valid in some cases. But for some, it may possibly be not the best solution. I personally use firefox as primary browser. I never ever accept those DRM approval stuff in it. I keep Firefox clean.

I have Google chrome installed for when I need that kinda stuff, or to cast YouTube to my TV, or need a second browser for whatever reason (verify a website issue is due to bad website not browser issue, etc). It has all that DRM stuff built in. Chromium does not.

Sure, I could use chromium just for casting YouTube and as secondary browser, but the other prop stuff wont work. But, I use Firefox mainly; I use chrome when I need weird proprietary stuff, so don' t need a third browser just for casting YouTube.

I don't watch Netflix direct on PC, but if I wanted to, I would use Google Chrome, cuz otherwise I'd have to allow DRM in Firefox.

So, there are valid reasons for installing chrome but not chromium.

And in fact, those that want to sync between mobile and desktop, need to use either Firefox on both, chromium on both, or chrome on both. cant sync chrome to chromium anymore (thanks to google being meanies).

(my distro comes with chromium as default browser; i remove it)

ondoho 10-02-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma9o7 (Post 6288496)
Of couse, this is valid in some cases. But for some, it's not.

I personally use firefox as primary browser. I never ever accept those DRM approval stuff in it. I keep Firefox clean.

I have google chrome installed for when I need that kinda stuff, or to cast youtube to my tv, or need a second browser for whatever normal reason (verify a website issue is due to bad website not browser issue, etc). It has all that DRM stuff built in. Chromium does not.

I don't watch netflix direct on PC, but if I wanted to, I would use google chrome, cuz otherwise I'd have to allow DRM in firefox.

Sure, I could use chromium just for casting youtube and as secondary browser, but the other prop stuff wont work. But, I use firefox mainly; I use chrome when I need weird proprietary stuff, so don' t need a third browser just for casting youtube.

So, there are valid reasons for installing chrome but not chromium.

And in fact, those that want to sync between mobile and desktop, need to use either firefox on both, chromium on both, or chrome on both. cant sync chrome to chromium anymore (thanks to google being meanies).

(my distro comes with chromium as default browser; i remove it)

Sad. Sounds like you hit one bump and just rolled over.
Fact remains, in 99% of all cases (including Netflix, Banking, etc.) Chromium or Firefox is just as good as Chrome, and since it's in the repositories, you don't get the problems OP describes.
If they have a valid reason why they need Chrome over Chromium, I'm listening.

enigma9o7 10-02-2021 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 6288501)
If they have a valid reason why they need Chrome over Chromium, I'm listening.

I mentioned a couple, but the big one is syncing to android chrome. Netflix and anything that requires DRM is the other.

And as I said, if user (like me) primary browser is Firefox and doesnt want to add DRM to firefox, then chrome is good browser for DRM requiring stuff cuz its built in. I run into sites that require DRM regularlary, at least once a month, especially since my kids are in school and they come home with URLs recommended by teacher, etc...

For the whole last school year their school was in google meets. Under chromium it only half worked and lotsa issues, it only took me a couple days of messing with stuff before I switched to chrome, where it "just works".

(Well, until they needed to change their background for the class photo....)

ondoho 10-04-2021 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma9o7 (Post 6288504)
I mentioned a couple

I said "they", meaning OP, not you.

If Chromium is in the repos anyhow, OP won't have to jump through hoops to update it, or get bitten by Google's disregard for their distro's package management.

And that was what OP's question was about.

Whereas you take the chance to rant for Chrome, for personal reasons. Because we don't know OP's reasons, and you seem to have two very particular personal reasons for recommending it.
But since OP seems to have abandoned this thread, I will indulge you:
Quote:

the big one is syncing to android chrome.
That may be a valid concern, but one can always install another browser on an Android device.
Also, thanks to Google for doing that - and your reaction is to now recommend closed-source Google products even more? SMH.

Quote:

if user (...) doesnt want to add DRM to firefox, then chrome is good browser for DRM requiring stuff cuz its built in.
In FF, this is a question of checking a button.

Once again I'm baffled how people proudly use an open-source operating system, but then turn around and happily drink Alphabet Corp's closed-source kool-aid at the drop of a pin.

Not only that, but they go round recommending it to everyone, which results in newbies being ignorant of the existence of Chromium, thinking it's "Firefox or Chrome", and relying on familiar Windows-style installation procedure, instead of relying on one of the greatest features of Linux distributions.

enigma9o7 10-04-2021 09:30 AM

The OP asked specifically about Google-Chrome. Not chromium. Completely unrelated and out of nowwhere you posted "dont install chrome, install chromium". I could post "dont install chrome, install firefox" or "don't install chrome, install brave" etc but that doesn't help the OP resolve their issue of google chrome not updating, which it should just fine on distros that use APT; I've personally never tried the rpm but I assume they figured that out too, but OP hasn't confirmed which one they installed from.

In other words, if the user followed your advice, they'd just have another browser installed as well (that's probably useless to them if they also have google chrome or any decent browser installed). But they'd still have the original problem, which so far is unexplained.

If they had posted chromium was not updating, there would be different questions to ask, and many distros (besides ubuntu) have that in repositories already. And some distros that do have it, like for example debian stable, don't update very often, for example currently version 90 in bullseye. Ubuntu no longer packages in current but bionic is still at 93. Mint and bodhi do have 94 FYI. Some people might care about having "latest" version all the time. But all this is completely off topic, it's about a different browser than OP asked about. You're the one that turned it into chrome vs chromium. I gave a couple reasons why people might want chrome over chromium cuz you seem confused, another one is voice search, but I personally can't think of any reason to use chromium myself. But you can, that's fine for you. But irrelevant to this topic, I'm sure there are already plenty of threads were people ask which browser to use, I saw a recent one titled "is firefox the best for linux" or something dumb like that, maybe you should go there and try to convince them that somehow chromium is better than firefox since you're such a fan.


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