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Riichard 09-08-2003 05:04 AM

Newbie questions
Hi, I've got some newbie questions to ask
1)Where do minimized programs go ? I cannot find them on the panel at bottom of screen?
2)how do I kill a crashed program?

TheRealDeal 09-08-2003 05:25 AM

Hi Riichard,

1. Minimized programs.... They should go to the bottom panel. What distro are you running? I use Red Hat and when I minimize a window or program, they go to the bar at the bottom.

2. Kill a crashed app... look for the PID and use the kill command to kill the PID (Process ID). There are a few ways to find the PID, I prefer the command ps -aux then find the PID and use kill

for example.

ps -aux | grep xmms (this will list all the running processes, and find the line containing xmms)

if the process was 12345 I would then...

kill 12345

Hope this helps.

>Craig :)

aqoliveira 09-08-2003 07:35 AM

Hi there

U can also kill apps via the GUI by going to RH->System Tools->System Monior (this is under gome and is known as gome-system-monitor)

Oh yes u can do via the terminal like TheRealDeal said just one more thing if u used the cmd kill 12345 this will try and terminate the process nicelly and cleanly but say it doen not and becomes a zombie process use the following kill -9 12345 or kill kill 12345. This will terminate it for sure. One more thing say u have multiple processes of the same app instaed of killing one buy one try killall app.


XavierP 09-08-2003 07:42 AM

I kill progs by doing start->run xkill and then clicking on the failed app.

Riichard 09-08-2003 08:13 AM

Well thanks fot all that info on crashed apps
I still cannot find minimized programs they just dissapear
Do I need to goto panel and create some new addition?
I'm expecting to see something like what windows does with minimized programs.

Riichard 09-08-2003 08:38 AM

BTW i'm using Red Hat Linux

h/w 09-08-2003 08:54 AM

if they dont work, why dont u "right-click" on the bottom panel, look up something of the likes of 'taskbar' or 'application list' or some of the sort/ should be inuittive enough.

jhansman 09-08-2003 09:24 AM

I just posted the same problem with RH9. From one boot to the next it seems to change something every time! The modem lights work, then don't. The minimized apps are accessible, then aren't. Frustration limits looming!

h/w 09-08-2003 09:31 AM

are u allowed to remove that panel? if u can why dont u, and then just add the same panel all over again.

aqoliveira 09-08-2003 10:36 AM


Try using Alt - TAB to swith between apps nad make sure that u are in the right Workspace switcher


Riichard 09-09-2003 02:49 AM

Thanks for the help, I had deleted the original tasklist, and had to create a new one.

Anmar 09-09-2003 03:16 AM

You can add many areas shows the same minimized programs from the utility list
when you "right click" on the panel and add something .

It's something called:
window list

I think so .

Baran 09-09-2003 06:06 AM

Under X, using


will run "xkill"

sometimes we need short-cuts :)

you can also learn PIDs by "ksystemguard" in KDE, you can also kill processes from there. Or in konsole you can use "ps" or "top" commands to learn PIDs

snatale1 09-09-2003 08:56 PM

Re: Newbie questions

Originally posted by Riichard
Hi, I've got some newbie questions to ask
1)Where do minimized programs go ? I cannot find them on the panel at bottom of screen?

If your running redhat most apps will not minimize if running as root....are you root?

jhansman 09-09-2003 09:24 PM

I'm not, and they still disappear.

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