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waxman80014 10-07-2009 01:25 PM

Newbie Questions
 
OK I want to try LINUX and I have a few questions....

#1 I want to buy a cheep laptop to install it on, any suggestions for a laptop for around $100-$150 US

#2 Any suggestions on any good flavors to try first?

#3 What is the best MP3 player to use and the best PDF viewer to use.

Thanks for any input and just for all you to know I have been using computers all they way back to the Apple II era...

smeezekitty 10-07-2009 01:29 PM

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#2 Any suggestions on any good flavors to try first?
personally i think Ubuntu is hard to use and anoying so i do not like it
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#3 What is the best MP3 player to use and the best PDF viewer to use.
MP3s VLC or MPLAYER will be fine
PDF i guess ghostscript but i really dont know

Doculus 10-07-2009 01:53 PM

I would say that the best pdf reader is Adobe Acrobat Reader.
Sorry. But its gratis and available on linux. Other, open source viewers all has some troubles, eg. the scroll wheel does not works, or very slow on large files.

For the distro, it's question of taste and usage. Do you want to browse the Internet and have fun, or develop a kernel driver or server program?

I do not think Ubuntu is "hard to use", I would definitelly suggest it for browser and other easy usage.

From the other side, if you prefer to know your system in depth, and configure every aspect of it, go with Gentoo (I do).
But I do not suggest it to a real beginner.

But there are plenty of distros on the market nowadays, you can try a dozen of them, and share your experiences, if you have time.
I do not, so if I need it fast, I install Ubuntu, if I need it tailored, I go with Gentoo.

For MP3 player, mplayer and totem is good enough, but if you want a nice catalog also about your files, go with gmusicbrowser.

waxman80014 10-07-2009 01:53 PM

OK Ubuntu is out...


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Originally Posted by smeezekitty (Post 3711215)
personally i think Ubuntu is hard to use and anoying so i do not like it

MP3s VLC or MPLAYER will be fine
PDF i guess ghostscript but i really dont know


smeezekitty 10-07-2009 01:55 PM

in Ubuntu i get lots of access denied and i find it slow and needs constant tweeking
other distros i tried do not have this problem

adm1329 10-07-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty (Post 3711264)
in Ubuntu i get lots of access denied and i find it slow and needs constant tweeking
other distros i tried do not have this problem


I've never had those problems with any of the ubuntu releases. The only real issue I've ever had was with a wireless card that didn't work out of the box and after I got it working it just stopped one day and I couldn't get it to work again. I used ubuntu on my laptop that my wife uses on a regular basis and she loved it. I currently have 9.04 on a dell optiplex gx240 with 512 mb ram that my 4 year old uses to play reader rabbit.

Now personally I like Fedora and CentOS for my use, but I would not consider Ubuntu hard.

repo 10-07-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by waxman80014 (Post 3711261)
OK Ubuntu is out...

For a beginner, ubuntu is the best choice.
However, the distro to use will depend on the specifications of the hardware.

smeezekitty 10-07-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by repo (Post 3711310)
For a beginner, ubuntu is the best choice.
However, the distro to use will depend on the specifications of the hardware.

Wrong.
there are lots of alterntive that are easier to use
Ubuntu had me so fed up my face turned red
but other distros i felt more relaxed

repo 10-07-2009 02:42 PM

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in Ubuntu i get lots of access denied and i find it slow and needs constant tweeking
If by access denied you mean root access, every distro has this, unless you use puppy or dsl, where you run as root.
If ubuntu is slow, use a different windowmanager.
Why constant tweaking ?

smeezekitty 10-07-2009 02:45 PM

let see no wireless internet
then the display broke
and the list goes on

smeezekitty 10-07-2009 02:47 PM

the terminal did not go into root without going at crawl speed
the wireless internet did not work
the display looked like $h!it (640x480x24bpp)

forrestt 10-07-2009 02:59 PM

I have to agree with everyone here except smeezekitty on the ease of Ubuntu (But then again, he is writing his own OS, so I don't think he was ever a newbie but rather was born with kernel knowledge genetically imprinted in his brain). I can't say I've tried all of the alternatives, but of the distro's I've used, Ubuntu is the most newbie friendly. My wife (a hair stylist who wouldn't touch a computer before I met her 6 years ago) has been using Ubuntu for a few years and is quite capable of using it and installing software. If your goal is to "use" your computer, I'd suggest Ubuntu. If your goal is to learn Linux, I'd suggest Slackware. For MP3's I like URL="http://amarok.kde.org/"]amarok[/URL], and for PDF's I have to agree, Adobe Acrobat is still the best for the quality of the user experience.

HTH

Forrest

smeezekitty 10-07-2009 03:02 PM

Ubuntu is fine if you are just browsing the web and dont mind some trouble setting it up
i didnt grow up on linux

Tux-Slack 10-07-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty (Post 3711335)
Ubuntu is fine if you are just browsing the web and dont mind some trouble setting it up
i didnt grow up on linux

Sorry to say this. You're weird :O
You don't mind the trouble of making your own OS, but you mind the troubles in Ubuntu, which you still haven't stated which they are clearly?
And by judging of many users of Ubuntu they didn't find many troubles with it. Personaly I use it on my laptop too, all the setting up things I had to do was input my WLAN WPA pass phrase.

salasi 10-07-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by waxman80014 (Post 3711211)
#1 I want to buy a cheep laptop to install it on, any suggestions for a laptop for around $100-$150 US

At that price, it sounds like a secondhand laptop.
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#2 Any suggestions on any good flavors to try first?
I'm going with the majority here...Ubuntu as a beginner's distro (or Kubuntu or Xubuntu...). I would definitely recommend that after about six months you revisit the decision and decide whether you want to stick or twist, but one of the *buntus is as good a place to start as any (ok, or maybe mepis or mint are equally good...)

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#3 What is the best MP3 player to use and the best PDF viewer to use.
No idea about the MP3 player, but install Acrobat reader, Okular and kpdf (evince? what about that?) and see which you like. I think Acrobat is marginally the best, but okular is fine too and it does more than just pdf files. I'd probably like kpdf better if it didn't insist on only opening one document at a time, which may or may not be a factor for you.


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