Newbie looking for some help....
 

Hello everyone. This is my first post. I have NO idea what I am doing but am trying to learn. I just installed RH 9.0 about 3 days ago after deciding to run a web site from home! (IIS, whats that? :D )

After reading online for a bit, I download RH 9.0 from red hats page (cant post link sorry) (shrike-i386-disc1.iso shrike-i386-disc2.iso shrike-i386-disc3.iso)

I copyed all 3 into 3 different CDR's. Booted off CD 1 to do an install. (I clicked to install "EVERYTHING")

After about an hour and 30 min, it said it was finished. A display came up (something like windows I guess) and thats where it stands.

Everything is a little different but I will stick with it! Frist thing I tried to do was surf the net. I ran into a problem.

Only thing is, I dont know what the problem is :confused:


I click on mozilla to surf to yahoo. com, I get an error that says something about cant find the name yahoo.com. (again, sorry but I cant post links yet)

I dont know if its the network card drivers or what. So I will post my settings here....


MIS K7N2 Motherboard. (MS-6570)
(onboard Video/sound/USB/Network card ect... all but the video card)
Video Card: nvidia G4 4200
80 gig HD
I am also using a Linksys BEFN2PS4 router.

I dont know if its my router or my network card thats having the issue.

Also, I have NO idea how to use Linux at this point but I did win a bid on Ebay for a book on RH 9.0. ($25.97)

I wont give up on the OS. I just thought I would post here while I would try it all out.

I did DL a driver for my network card (I think its for my net card?) from here
nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0256 .html (w w w infromt of it. not being able to post links sucks for me! :(


I installed them (I think, again, I dont know how to install anything)


From here, I am lost!

If anyone can help me with this problem and/or inform me on some good info about this OS (still waiting on my book) it would help a lot. Thanks for your time!

There are a few options here..

1) Your DNS is not resolving, because of this when you type www.yahoo.com it doesn't change that to the IP address and initiate a connection to it. One way of testing this is to try to connect to the following IP 81.91.107.107 (just type that in to the mozilla address bar)

If that works, it is simply a DNS issue. You will need to contact your ISP for their DNS server addresses.


2) Your network card is not configured.

Can you provide the output of the following command;

/sbin/ifconfig

3) What process did you undergo to "install" the nforce driver ?


I'll post back when i have read through your reply...

As a newbie(like me), I suggest not trying to check for errors occurring in installation.. hehe.
When a distro didn't work for me(errors and/or things were too advanced for me), I simply tried another distro or, if some installation failed, I installed it again. If you are a complete newbie, I suggest taking one of the most well-known distributions to install, and then if something fails, search for the error on a search engine. People often have the same error as you!

At first I tried Mandrake, my brother who knows linnux very well installed it for me but after a while it started crashing - so I installed windows instead. And then I installed MDK(not saying one is better than the other!) and it was a bit simpler to use - and after some councelling on the web(just searching on questions, not asking myself... quicker that way) I got it to work! First I installed MDK on my laptop which was a bit more complicated than a stationary - some troubles with the PCMIA cards and such.. also with gfx card and monitor. But after some re-install trial-and-erroring, it came to work and I had learnt a bit more in linux! then I started installing on stationaries, and then I tried another distro called Vector Linux on my laptop which runs all ok. And here is where I am today!

Be into pluralism, it's no use being into anything else!

1) when I entered the IP into mozilla, I get another error (the connection was refused)

2) I have no idea how to view the file. (infact, I just found out how to get to it) I did the following...
I went to "roots home" then in location, I typed /sbin
I then seen the file ifconfig, I right clicked it and chose open in new window. Nothing happened! I then double clicked on it (windows??) and still, nothing happened.


3) I just double clicked on the file. ( have 2 computers (one running windows) coped the file onto a floppy, mounted the floppy (took me about 2 hours to find out how to do that) and placed it on my" desktop?" I then double clicked on the file. Thats was all I did.

am I doing something wrong?

Doing somthing wrong ? Probablyu my fault for not being clear on what i wanted...

1) Log in to linux as root
2) Open a console (RedHat menu, Run a command, type in "xterm" (without the quotes) )
3) Type in "/sbin/ifconfig" (again without quotes)
4) Note down what gets printed out to the screen...
5) Come back here and type it in....


Bit of a learning curve with linux eh ? ;-) Mine started out 7 years ago and i am still learning little things every time i use it...

Talk soon

You need to type in the command in a terminal. I'm not sure on Redhat since I use Mandrake. Look in the menus for something like Konsole or console and open it. You may also need to switch to root by typing

Then the password for root. Then try the command again.

You may need to note that a lot, actually most, commands have to be run this way. A little different than windows. That command probably tried to run, it just didn't have anywhere to display what it returned including the error message if any.

It sounds like you have not set up your internet connection. You may have a control center that can help you. I have not used or seen Redhat so I can't be of much more help. Sorry :cry: :cry: Wish I could help more.

Keep posting and we'll help you get it going.

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Oh, welcome to the world of Linux. With time it will grow on you. Stick like glue sometimes.

you can configure the network by
#redhat-config-network

if you use dhcp tick dhcp...
else enter the rest info
and restart the service

#service network restart

#ifup eth0

now try to browse ....
if not post the errors that occured
(if you have a non dial up ip the manually enter it in the network configuration)

I get this....

lo Link encap: Local Loopback
Inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
Up loopback running mtu: 16436 metric:1
RX packets: 271723 error:0 droped: 0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisi:0 Txqueuelen:0
RX Bytes: 18637083 (17.7 mb) TX Bytes: 18637083 (17.7 mb)




I am lost on what you said. I am logged on as root by default I think (user is root) (then my root pass)

I log into the system and get something that looks like windows? (sorry, dont know what its called)




I guess your talking about using them commands from the command line? (Where I run xtream)?? I have not ran these commands yet as I was not for sure how to. I am running a router (to a total of 2 computer) and would like the router to give an IP (192.xxx.xxx.xxx or what ever is default)


Again, TY very much for everyones times!

In KDE, click the go button (by default it is a 'k', red hat may have changed it to a hat or something), or rightclick the desktop. A menu will pop up, and then you click 'Run Command'. You can enter commands/programs here (such as 'xterm'). There is an 'Options' button, and when this is clicked it shows several more useful options. You may be able to find a link(s) for various terminal emulators (such as xterm) in the 'K' menu.

What do you mean by "terminal emulators?" Is this something I should be looking for or setting up?

I think he's talking about a terminal or console, kind of same thing.

Click on the start thingy and look for terminals and then console or konsole. A lot of things are actually easier to setup in command line than in a GUI. That's not always true but usually.

Hope that helps. Don't know much more on that one.

Later

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Sorry if this is a noob question, but is this what I am looking for to set up my network so I can access the net?

When you find the console, terminal whatever you want to call it, type in

Then write down what ever it prints after that and post it here for us to look at. Hopefully someone will be able to see what is wrong and how to correct the problem or get it set up if it is not.

This is not that you have done something wrong. Sometimes things just work and sometimes you have to help it along a bit. We will help you to help it along.

Yes this will help get you on the net. Just hang in there. flashtek_uk seems to have done this before. He just needs to know where your system stands at the moment so he will know where to start. You may be just one or two commands away from surfing or it may need setting up from the start.

While you seem to be new at this and need to get a understanding of what is going on, try this link.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/

Download some of those manuals and read over then. You may even find the console, terminal whatever while you read over those. If you are going to use Linux you need to read them anyway. You don't need to understand all of it though. Just kind of get to a point where you can find what you need to get your net up and running. Rest will take time.

You :study: but NO :cry: . It'll work.

Back later.

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Ok, now the "lo" details tell me that you have only local networking running, you will need to have the ethernet networking setup too;

Click on the RedHat icon (the system you are using is called X Windows)
Click on Run Command
Type in "xterm"
Within the window that shows up type in "redhat-config-network-druid"
Add an Ethernet device with the IP address etc set as required

Once you have finished in that application re-run the "/sbin/ifconfig" application and post the output of that. You _should_ have the entry above (lo) and a new one called "eth0" with all of your IP address settings.

Post back if you need any further help.. or indeed if it works for you...

Ok, thats one of the problems I am having. I cant seem to find a driver for my card. I have a MSI K7N2 mother board and after looking around, I found this link to DL the driver for it. I am NOT sure if its the correct file or not tho. (here is the link http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0256.html )

Now, when that prog pops up for my netcard to install, I have to pick a driver (or at least what kind of netcard I have) but I dont see nvidia on the list. Any idea?

I am also using a router as a DHCP (I thinks thats the name..the router gives the ip) so, would I still "pick/give" an ip to the card?

TY very much for helping me out on this everyone! I wont give up.

Also, when I double click on the file (I dled from nvidia site) I ge this...


Package Already Installed
A newer version of "nvidia_nforce is currently installed.

Where can I find the drivers if they are already installed?

ok, I just bought a RH linux 5.2 installation guide and its NOT very much help. The commands are not even the same?? Anyone else have any idea on what to do?

After playing with it a little, I found somethging called "Hardware Browser" but I dont see my network card in there? Iwhen I try to goto network config to add my netcard, I dont see my drivers???

Ok, I guess I want the long way of doing things....

(*If you cant beat them join them I guess*)

For some reason I could NOT get the onboard network card to work so I went out and bought a new card. I got it installed. I can run the ip given to me (81.91.107.107) and it gives me my ip (from my ISP) I am running a router (also acting as a DNS server (I think thats what you call it) But now I cant surf with url's (www.yahoo.com)

I get an error saying

www.yahoo.com can not be found. Please check the name and try again.

Shootin in the dark here
 

Put in

and see if it will go to the site. Only put in the numbers, nothing else. No www or .com. You should get a black screen that has R. T. F. M. and will display your IP address.

I don't know much about Redhat so I will have to point you to places and post what is somewhere else. Mandrake is based on Redhat but it is very different.

Hopefully someone that has Redhat will step in and walk you through it. If not it will just take a while. I'm assuming you have glanced over that link I posted earlier. It should have some info on this in one of them. I don't know which one though.

When you boot see if you see any error messages. That may help

Let's get started. I guess. :scratch:

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Re: Shootin in the dark here
 

Ypu, that does work! just not ones with URL's. (www.yahoo.com)

THAT'S GOOD.

This is from a earlier post:

You may be able to get that from windoze. I do not know where it is though. It is most likely in IE setting though. I am not sure.

I will have to go find out where to put that info. May take me a bit. Mine goes in Kppp. I have no clue where to put yours though.

"I'll be back" he he he he

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Sounds like maybe your dhcp client isn't getting the dns servers or something. Open a terminal and do this.

cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases | grep domain-name-servers

It should look something like this.

option domain-name-servers 24.240.231.7,68.113.206.10;

Ok, I done some searching and found out that the DNS info goes in the /etc/resolve.conf file. If you find them in windoze you can just transfer them over to linux. It should look something like this.

domain smoker #kppp temp entry
nameserver 205.xxx.xx.2 #kppp temp entry
nameserver 208.xxx.xx.12 #kppp temp entry


I put in x's instead of some of them. It should be all numbers. Wouldn't want my ISP to cut my phone cord. :cry: :cry:

Are you dual booting or do you have two puters? Sometimes I have read that when you boot it resets some of this stuff. May help. If you are dual booting, never mind.

Does that help any? Did you ever find out how to get to a console terminal thing?

Back later.

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OK dude. I hit pay dirt here. Look at this link and see if this helps.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/l...rk-config.html

It uses a GUI to do this. You may need to use the back button and such but it should help.

Post back if you still need help. You are very close. Can you smell the net yet?

Later.

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if you use redhat , the you can use

#rpm -q <package_name >

-q --> query

am I looking for my DNS from my ISP or from my router? My ISP gives me one IP so I run a router onto 2 different computers. One this system (my windows computer) the other one my Linux computer.

DNS = Domain Name Server. If you type in www.google.com the system will go to the DNS server and ask for the number of the site. Contrary to popular belief www.google.com is not the address for google. It is the number that is asigned that the computer goes to. Can't remember what it is and it varies. They have several from what I here.

It will first go to your ISP, if it says 'I don't know what it is' then it will go to your ISP's ISP and see if it knows, if not it will continue up the ladder until it gets to the big dog that has every name and number there is globally. It's a big one. It will then update all the systems you went through and add the entry. You can have a DNS server on your system if you want to waste some hard drive space. I wouldn't recommend that though.

Basically let's say you want to call a old friend. You can't remember the phone number and you go to the phone book. It's not listed. You just went to your ISP then. Since it's not there, you dial information and give them the name and ask them for number. They would be the big dog with everybodies number. Make sense?

The number for the DNS server is available from your ISP. Call them and they will give it to you. Then using that last link you should be able to fill that info in and surf the net. Make SURE you get the right one. Repeat it back and confirm it.

Hope that helps. That's my lesson for the day.

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This is some BS! I have made 4 calls to my ISP (cox) and they say they cant issue a DNS number! They asked me what I needed it for and I informed them I was using linux and they said they dont support the OS? I am lost on what to do now.....

LMFAO!!!! N/M this post, I set up my network card to get DNS info from my ISP, and I reset Linux, all is fine now!

I want to say THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT HELPED OUT ON THIS ISSUE!!!!!

(I still dont understand why I could NOT use my network card on my MOBO, but ast least I am up nd running and life will be much better now. I WONT GIVE UP!!!!!!)

Hahahaha! I can see those phone techies cowering under the desk. Every company I call and just say Linux, they can freak out sometimes. It doesn't really matter what DNS server you use, just get a working one. I just tried a "whois" on Mandrake, and it didn't have it, so I logged in to my Linux box slackware and did this there. This is how you would do it, open a terminal and do

whois swbell.net (or someother site name.)

At the bottom will give you some dns numbers, use those. If they don't work, try another. If you can't find someone, ask someone for theirs. Look at that phone number example, you can skip the phone book and call information, and you can also use other phone books. I'll give you swbell.net dns servers. Remember, use ip numbers.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.SWBELL.NET 151.164.1.1
NS2.SWBELL.NET 151.164.1.7

But there one thing about useing other DNS servers. If you use your ISP's DNS server, it is quicker sence you are connected right to them. If you use another one, it might have some delay.

Glad you got it working. I wish I could have helped more but I have dial up. :cry: No experience with DSL and such.

Happy for you though. Happy surfing!!

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nic and router errors
Linksys BEFN2PS4 router is a Dynamic Host Configuration Protol device, by default it will issue an ip adress to you machine if you did not configure your machine to use DHCP you will need to.

It sounds as though, to me, your machine can not find the Default gateway