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irishmage 05-05-2004 11:42 AM

Newbie looking for an idiot guide for Mandrake 9.2
Good day unto all
After two weeks of serious frustration trying to install gentoo to no avail I swapped and loaded Mandrake 9.2 linux. The install went relatively smoothly and now I have a linux box up and running :D !
Now I am coming from a windoze world and have never used Linux before. I do have an old "Linux for dummies book" which I am now reading avidly to learn more, but it is geared more towards redhat than Mandrake.
What I am looking for is a step by step guide that is online and free ( I have NO cash whatsoever) that can tell me how to find the software I need/want , how to download it, and install it. From there I am sure I can manpage how to learn it. In short I am looking for an idiot's guide to assist me in my learning process. The current box is empty and am hoping to make it a Samba shared mini server with evolution for mail and such. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks as always in advance for your time in this your all great!

clarks 05-05-2004 12:10 PM

Did you check out the documention on the Mandrake web site? Good place to start.
Also of much help are the following:
Linux Cookbook
SMB How-To
Samba Authenticated Gateway How-To
Linux Newbie Guide

irishmage 05-05-2004 01:50 PM

Hello !
Here is the problem, I need it even simpler than that to start. A true "idiots guide" type deal. right now I want to load openofficeand when i try I get a screen asking if I want to use AWK. what is that?? I literally am from the windoze idiot user world and am trying to learn. That is why I am looking for a simple guide of "to do this do this" The sites you have mentioned are excellent from what I can see but still presuppose SOME knowledge of linux. I have literally none. Hope this helps abit.

clarks 05-05-2004 02:03 PM

Dude! I was a newbie too, but the first guide I used was the Linux Newbie Guide and then to RUTE for additional help, all without prior GNU/Linux experience.

Concerning the OpenOffice question, AWK is a programming language and I have no idea why it is asking for it unless it is part of the programming language it is built from.

irishmage 05-05-2004 02:29 PM

I totally agree! Im not slamming you or anyone else. Its just I have to get some things running or Im going lose a job. I have spent 6 hours (and more) a day for two weeks trying to get gentoo up and couldn't. :mad: The mandrake site wants cash I dont have to join their club and i am now at a loss here. Also my bad! it was ARK not Awk.:o I have a boss wanting my head as well as a contract to get out so Im tired and now frustrated. If I can the base basics I can go from there. I also really need a mandrake mirror site so's maybe I can do it from configure media. Any ideas??

bigjohn 05-05-2004 02:50 PM

Well irishmage,

One of the main snag's when you head's stuffed full of windows/M$ shit it that I found it create's a kind of mental block.

The way I got round this, was to try and do everything as I would when using windows, if it turns out that you screw something up, then as long as you've got your install disc's then use the newbies tried and tested "cure all", re-install.

Normally this is a problem when you've become comfortable with a linux distro, because you end up with shit loads of data that you don't want to loose, but as you're at the earlier stages, it probably doesn't present too much of a problem.

Now as for "idiot guides", well, I've never managed to find anything that really "fit's the bill". There are a few things about for specific app's, and if you had the money, there's mandrakes own "definitive guide to ......" (you should be able to get the 9.2 version, except for the money issue).

If you look at my sig, you'll see a link for "Rute Users guide". That's got quite a lot of stuff, but some of it is written in "geekspeak".

There's also the man pages. I suspect that you'd have those installed by default, the only real problem is that again they are in "geekspeak". So if you check the links in my sig, there's also one about how to decypher them (erm, you just need to open a konsole/terminal - the tv screen icon, probably on your task bar - when the terminal open's, you can just type

man man
which is the man - manual - page for man pages).

if you want to try and do something, but you get told that you need root priviledges, then is you are in your user account, you open a terminal and at the prompt, type su (switch user) and then put in your root password - but the downside is that you have to do stuff via the CLI (command line interface). If you want to do something in a graphical environment as root, then you'd usually have to log out of your user, and back in as root for graphic root access.

Finally, "google is your friend". You can either go straight to google and just put whatever you need to know about in and search, or for more specific linux related stuff go via

Sorry if that all sound's a bit vague, but I've spent over 2 years looking for a good "idiot's guide", and failed dismally. And yes, it often still confuses the hell out of me.

hope this helps a little.



clarks 05-05-2004 02:57 PM

Just sent you an email with a solution to your Mandrake need.
The reason it is asking if you want to use ARK is because it is a "tarred file". It similar to a zip file in Windows. You can use ARK to untar the file or do it from the command line.
I would think that it would be readily available, though, from within Gentoo's Software Manager, or whatever it is called, so that you could install openoffice and have it available from the menu system.

jib2 05-06-2004 03:40 AM

Have you read Mandrake documentation ?
Here are the basics :

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