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Old 08-25-2004, 12:48 AM   #1
krazibon3
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New to Linux! Got a few questions


Hey guys i've just recently installed FC2 and i'm having a great experience on configuring this beautiful operating system.

My question is i know for windows you usually install all the drivers and things first to optimise your system. For linux i've had my sound card detected during installation and my internet connect set up as well which is great. I had to install the ati drivers for my video card
which was a rough experience(spent 3 days). Now i'm wondering do i have to install chipset drivers for my motherboard?

I have a Abit IS7-E motherboard and it uses the i 865PE chipset. I searched intels website and couldn't find any drivers for linux. Anyone know of an alternate driver for me to use or where i can get the drivers?

Also i'd like to know whether there is a similar program such as server query or game spy for linux?

Any help would be appreciated...
 
Old 08-25-2004, 03:07 AM   #2
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I started with Mandrake and that is pretty similiar to Redhat. Usually, it picks out the drivers for that during the install. There should be a configuration screen in there though. You can use hdparm to test the speed of the hard drive.

Code:
hdparm -tT /dev/hd*
That should tell you a little bit. hdparm -i /dev/hd* will tell you the specs and if it is using DMA and such. Replace the * a b c d or whatever you have.

That should help a bit, since nobody else has responded, yet.

 
Old 08-25-2004, 04:12 AM   #3
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Re: New to Linux! Got a few questions

Quote:
Originally posted by krazibon3
Now i'm wondering do i have to install chipset drivers for my motherboard?
There are no "chipset drivers" for a motherboard running Linux. What you have to do
to optimize your machine and your motherboard is to recompile your kernel. This is the
basis for getting the most out of your Linux OS. There is one guide I can recommend:
http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/K...ild-HOWTO.html
 
Old 08-25-2004, 04:43 AM   #4
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Actually there are chipset drivers. I ran into this issue before and it was bugy till I fixed it.

Code:
  │ │               <*> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support                                                            │ │
  │ │               <*>   Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape/floppy support                                │ │
  │ │               ---     Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives                     │ │
  │ │               [ ]     Use old disk-only driver on primary interface                                    │ │
  │ │               <*>     Include IDE/ATA-2 DISK support                                                   │ │
  │ │[*]       Use multi-mode by default                                                      │ │
  │ │               <*>     Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support                                                  │ │
  │ │               < >     Include IDE/ATAPI TAPE support (EXPERIMENTAL)                                    │ │
  │ │               < >     Include IDE/ATAPI FLOPPY support                                                 │ │
  │ │               < >     SCSI emulation support                                                           │ │
  │ │               [ ]     IDE Taskfile Access                                                              │ │
  │ │[*]     IDE Taskfile IO (EXPERIMENTAL)                                                   │ │
  │ │               ---     IDE chipset support/bugfixes                                                     │ │
  │ │               <*>     generic/default IDE chipset support                                              │ │
  │ │               [ ]     CMD640 chipset bugfix/support                                                    │ │
  │ │               [ ]     PNP EIDE support                                                                 │ │
  │ │[*]     PCI IDE chipset support                                                          │ │
  │ │[*]       Sharing PCI IDE interrupts support                                             │ │
  │ │               [ ]       Boot off-board chipsets first support                                          │ │
  │ │               <*>       Generic PCI IDE Chipset Support                                                │ │
  │ │               < >       OPTi 82C621 chipset enhanced support (EXPERIMENTAL)                            │ │
  │ │               <*>       RZ1000 chipset bugfix/support                                                  │ │
  │ │[*]       Generic PCI bus-master DMA support                                             │ │
  │ │               [ ]         Force enable legacy 2.0.X HOSTS to use DMA                                   │ │
  │ │[*]         Use PCI DMA by default when available                                        │ │
  │ │               [ ]           Enable DMA only for disks                                                  │ │
  │ │               < >         AEC62XX chipset support                                                      │ │
  │ │               < >         ALI M15x3 chipset support                                                    │ │
  │ │               <*>         AMD and nVidia IDE support                                                   │ │
  │ │               < >         ATI IXP chipset IDE support                                                  │ │
  │ │               < >         CMD64{3|6|8|9} chipset support                                               │ │
  │ │               < >         Compaq Triflex IDE support                                                   │ │
  │ │               < >         CY82C693 chipset support                                                     │ │
  │ │               < >         Cyrix CS5510/20 MediaGX chipset support (VERY EXPERIMENTAL)                  │ │
  │ │               < >         Cyrix/National Semiconductor CS5530 MediaGX chipset support                  │ │
  │ │               < >         HPT34X chipset support                                                       │ │
  │ │               < >         HPT36X/37X chipset support                                                   │ │
  │ │               < >         National SCx200 chipset support                                              │ │
  │ │               < >         Intel PIIXn chipsets support                                                 │ │
  │ │               < >         NS87415 chipset support                                                      │ │
  │ │               < >         PROMISE PDC202{46|62|65|67} support                                          │ │
  │ └───────────────┴(+)─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │
  ├────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
  │                                      <Select>    < Exit >    < Help >                                      │
I had the default Intel and mine was Nforce. During heavy drive activity, it would lock up solid. Reset or power off. No keyboard response at all.

Later

 
Old 08-25-2004, 05:44 AM   #5
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Let me rephrase my statement.

There are no drivers supplied by ABit for the motherboard, specifically, except
for a "less than desirable" driver for the onboard soundchip.
The INF driver they supply is only for Windoze.
The 3COM nic driver is only for Windoze.
The onboard Audio driver for Linux is the alc-0115.tar.bz2, and you can do much
better at ALSA's homepage.
The USB 2.0 driver is only for Windoze 98SE/ME.

All of these, and other settings related to your motherboard, will have
to be configured via your kernel.

To determine which is your actual soundchip, run "lspci" as root and you'll get a
list of your PCI devices. That will also give you your 3COM nic chipset. Since you
have sound and an internet connection, they are probably fine just as they are.

Your motherboard is an Intel 865PE chipset, built for a P4 CPU - but which one
to choose in the kernel configuration depends upon which CPU is on your board.

The "chipset drivers" that Dale mentions are settings in your Linux kernel, not
something you're going to be able to install by inserting your ABit mobo CD...

In your kernel, there is support for a lot of devices that you don't have on your
motherboard. This is similar to Windoze, where you'll have drivers for maybe 300
different CD-RWs, but you only have one in your computer.

To make the Linux system boot faster, and run better, we recompile the kernel
and take out the support for devices we don't have. And we optimize the support
for the devices that we do have. (For instance, you may have a PIV CPU, but your
kernel may be configured for a PIII or another CPU.)

Some of these things aren't going to give you much of a noticeable performance
increase, unless you run some benchmark utilities (and find out how small the
difference between PIII and PV support is actually).

Another reason to recompile the kernel is to get a piece of hardware supported.
For instance, in Slackware 10.0 the default 2.4.26 kernel does not have support
for my onboard Broadcom Gigabit Ethernet nic. To get it to work I must recompile
my kernel. Some devices you can get to work by inserting the proper module, and
for others nothing but recompiling the kernel will work.
 
Old 08-25-2004, 05:57 AM   #6
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Now you hit the nail on the head. I think that all the things you mention are good advice. I also think that is why Gentoo, and some other distros that force you to compile your own kernel, are so fast. They are not "generic" kernel with plugged in modules, they are "custom" built for what you are running and need to use. If you don't have or need SCSI, leave it out. Why have code running that you don't need or will never use.

Recompiling the kernel can be a bit frustrating and time consuming. You have to do the research on ALL your hardware before you boot the first time.

On a personal note, I do not use modules, some do though. I don't for security reasons but it also allows me to switch from one kernel to another without needing to worry about module dependancies. If you compile a new kernel and boot it and there is a problem, you can edit grub and boot the old one and correct whatever was missed. If you plan to do this, I recommend you use grub if you are not already. It is much easier to edit that boot line in grub than to mess with lilo.

That is my two cents worth on that.



chinaman, I didn't notice that was you before. What up????
 
Old 08-25-2004, 06:01 AM   #7
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Dale,

Lost your email again. Was thinking about you the other day.
Actually, I've probably got it in Slack but had to boot Windoze
to do some work Slack won't do for me yet...
 
Old 08-25-2004, 06:12 AM   #8
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PM me, I'll send it again. Just don't let that windoze get a bug and start the spam cycle. I'm starting to get spam a bit. Me and the ftc will have to work on it. They do work on that you know.

If you can't PM here, go to justlinux, gentoo forums. I'm dalek there two.

Later

 
Old 08-25-2004, 06:20 AM   #9
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Can you email me from here? I don't see a Gentoo
forum at http://www.justlinux.com/forum/index.php?
 
  


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