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borkoborko39 06-02-2015 05:13 AM

New to Linux
 
Hi im thinking to install Linux but i dont know which.Debian or Ubuntu?Which is fast and more secure?Also i want to install Half life 2 non steam version with Source sdk non steam (I know cracked version but i will buy it soon just testing)and i was wondering can i install them?

rtmistler 06-02-2015 05:48 AM

Debian would be my recommendation.

Not fully current but my belief is that for the non steam you'd need to install Wine to run Windows applications under Linux. Otherwise the steam variation can run on many of the newest distributions. You can check for that by booting Linux as a Live distribution. That's where you grab the install ISO file and place it on a DVD or USB stick and when it boots you try versus install.

displace 06-02-2015 06:05 AM

Debian is a bit old-skool i.e. software packages lag several versions behind, but they are stable. So for a bit more modern up-to-date desktop you may want to go for ubuntu instead. Personally I would recommend to try one of the variations like xubuntu. I'm not sure exactly how the main Ubuntu distro is like today, but I've stopped using it ever since they introduced Unity. Such an annoyance. Linux Mint Cinnamon isn't a bad choice either.

DavidMcCann 06-02-2015 11:07 AM

The last post makes a good point. With different GUIs on offer, often very different, getting the one which suits you is a major aspect of making the right choice. Ubuntu offers Unity (make you computer look like a smart phone!), Gnome, Mate, and the semi-official variants Xubuntu, Kunbuntu, and Lubuntu. Debian offers Gnome. See them in screen shots via
http://www.renewablepcs.com/about-li...-gnome-or-xfce

fatmac 06-02-2015 12:10 PM

Welcome aboard.

Maybe take a look at AntiX or MX, both live/installable based on Debian.
http://antix.mepis.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

EDDY1 06-02-2015 12:26 PM

Welcome to linux & LQ.
You'll be very happy with debian.
You can also install different Desktops & additional software.
The most important thing is that it uses less resources than ubuntu.
Good luck with whatever you choose.

John VV 06-02-2015 01:32 PM

Quote:

Also i want to install Half life 2 non steam version
install MS Windows 7 or 8

that is a microsoft only program/game

install it on a microsoft os!!!


basing the LINUx!!! operating system on the MICROSOFT GAME!!! you want to play
is asinine

to quote "Hugh Laurie's" HOUSE character
"you are an ???????? "

you use the best tool for the job

if a MICROSOFT ONLY game is a MUST USE !!!!

then use a Microsoft OS

SCSIraidGURU 06-02-2015 01:37 PM

If you want to game Windows 7 is your best bet. Wine emulation is very slow. Windows video drivers are more robust for gaming than Linux. Manufacturers build drivers for purchased OS like Microsoft. They are robust. Linux is free and the drivers are not always great for gaming.

DavidMcCann 06-03-2015 11:08 AM

Many Windows programs can be run on Linux using Wine
https://www.winehq.org/
If you search for half-life, you will see that the retail version 2 is listed a a "platinum program": one which runs perfectly. There are also instructions on installation.

Wine is not an emulator and does not slow down programs: a few programs actually run faster than they do under Windows!
http://wiki.winehq.org/Debunking_Wine_Myths

Sefyir 06-03-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 5371104)
install MS Windows 7 or 8
that is a microsoft only program/game
install it on a microsoft os!!!
basing the LINUx!!! operating system on the MICROSOFT GAME!!! you want to play
is asinine
to quote "Hugh Laurie's" HOUSE character
"you are an ???????? "
you use the best tool for the job
if a MICROSOFT ONLY game is a MUST USE !!!!
then use a Microsoft OS

Yeah..
Half life 2 is Linux ported and is a Linux game. So instead of insulting the OP (twice) for asking a question, just help them.
Anyways, if you plan on buying it in the future, do you plan on buying the steam one? Unfortunately, the steam one is the only version available on Linux. Otherwise wine should work fine, especially if it is rated platinum.
In your case - https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManag...ation&iId=2095

Germany_chris 06-03-2015 02:11 PM

I'd probably install Debian unless the setup is more complex.


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