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Old 07-04-2004, 11:15 AM   #1
WolferGiga
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New kernel, now Keyboard error


I didn't exactly know where to put this, but since I'm new to Linux, I decided to put it here.

I have Suse 9.0, and I updated the kernel. I updated all the kernel's dependancies, then installed/built/compiled/whatever the new kernel. I did it all according to the instructions, and it seemed to go fine.

Until I restarted. After finishing, I restarted normally. But when my computer started up, it came up with "Keyboard Error or No Keyboard Present". Obviously my mouse and keyboard worked before, but since I got the new kernel, they don't work.

My keyboard is a Logitech Elite USB, and my mouse is a MS Intellimouse USB. What could be causing this, and how would I go about fixing it?

P.S. - If this is in the wrong section, I apoligize.
 
Old 07-04-2004, 12:07 PM   #2
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sooo

we need some information about your system

what kernel were you running before ?
what kernel are you running now ?
what is the output of 'uname -a'

was the old kernel a 2.4 series ?
and is the new kernel a 2.6 series ?

what does 'dmesg | grep usb` say ?
can you find the kernel config files ? they are usually names Config-version and live in your /boot/ folder ?
if you can find them, what does 'cat /boot/config-version | grep USB` say (especially anything about HID (human interface Dsumthing)

ALSO, do you still have the old kernel, if you do, boot it, and tell us the output of the command "lsmod"
and if you can boot your new kernel and use a ps2 keyboard temporerily, what does "lsmod" say when you boot your new kernel.

(the command lsmod needs to be ran with privilages, run 'su -' and enter root password before you give the lsmod command for the first time)
 
Old 07-04-2004, 12:11 PM   #3
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My old kernel was a 2.4, and the current one is 2.6.

How do you suppose I boot with the old kernel, when I can't make it past the keyboard error at startup?

I guess I could try to find a ps2 keyboard... I think I have one around here, but I'm in the proccess of packing things for moving to a new house, so I have no clue what box it'd be in. I guess I'll go look for it.

EDIT: I found an old (really old) ps2 keyboard, so I can get into linux now.

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Old 07-04-2004, 12:29 PM   #4
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Okay, looking in my boot folder, i have the same files for each kernel version except for two. I don't have the config- or kerneltypes- for version 2.6.7 (my new one).

Also, what are the keyboard shortcuts to get into important things, such as the console?

EDIT: Well, after getting into linux, and unplugging then plugging back in my keyboard and mouse (the usb ones), my normal keyboard works, but not my mouse.

EDIT AGAIN: Well, problem half-solved. I no longer get the keyboard error when starting my computer. But, I still can't use my usb peripherals in Linux. They work fine in Grub and WinXP, so its not them. I must have gimped some of the usb drivers in linux somehow.

Last edited by WolferGiga; 07-04-2004 at 01:02 PM.
 
Old 07-04-2004, 03:31 PM   #5
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well.... basically i think the problem is....

1) drivers are not loaded
or
2) /dev/mouse is pointing to the ps2 device instead of usb
or
3) HID is not loaded.

but i cannot tell which without some usfull info about your sytem.


the config files in /boot/ would have shown wether the drivers are in-built, or need to be loaded.

and lsmod would have shown wether the drivers were loaded, should they have needed to be. usually, they are not compiled in, and need to be loaded, but u forgot to post this information.


if you cant find out any information about your system (or do not wish to post it) then its impossible to know for sure, your only option would be to compile a new kernel, and remove /dev/mouse, and create a new symlink pointing to USB device.
 
Old 07-04-2004, 04:12 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by qwijibow
well.... basically i think the problem is....

1) drivers are not loaded
or
2) /dev/mouse is pointing to the ps2 device instead of usb
or
3) HID is not loaded.

but i cannot tell which without some usfull info about your sytem.


the config files in /boot/ would have shown wether the drivers are in-built, or need to be loaded.

and lsmod would have shown wether the drivers were loaded, should they have needed to be. usually, they are not compiled in, and need to be loaded, but u forgot to post this information.


if you cant find out any information about your system (or do not wish to post it) then its impossible to know for sure, your only option would be to compile a new kernel, and remove /dev/mouse, and create a new symlink pointing to USB device.
You have to remember, I don't know much about Linux. As for your ideas...
1) Don't know how to check
2) I don't have a mouse folder in the /dev folder... that's probably bad
3) Don't know how to check that either, you said about the kernels config file, but my new kernel has no config, only the old one has one

If the system info your talking about is my comp specs, check my sig. Otherwise, be more specific as to what you want. I don't know if I did the kernel right, but I'm pretty sure (there were no errors during compiling). And I have absolutely no clue what the heck a symlink is.
 
Old 07-04-2004, 05:04 PM   #7
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Quote:

what does 'dmesg | grep usb` say ?
can you find the kernel config files ? they are usually names Config-version and live in your /boot/ folder ?
if you can find them, what does 'cat /boot/config-version | grep USB` say (especially anything about HID (human interface Dsumthing)

ALSO, do you still have the old kernel, if you do, boot it, and tell us the output of the command "lsmod"
and if you can boot your new kernel and use a ps2 keyboard temporerily, what does "lsmod" say when you boot your new kernel.

(the command lsmod needs to be ran with privilages, run 'su -' and enter root password before you give the lsmod command for the first time)
sorry, i dont know how i can explain it any simpler.
 
  


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