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Old 02-16-2007, 02:12 AM   #1
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new installation fails to boot

Hi, i'm trying to get an old machine to work. 733mhz piii processor, 300 meg pc 133 ram, trident 3dimage975 graphics card. 30 gig hard disk.

I got around the mounting issues (installing kububtu) my using the alternate cd. But when i try to boot the computer, before the loading bar screen it black screens. I'd been reading it's because my graphics card crashes when it tries to use 24 bit colour. But i can't get to the console, to change anything. and killing the x window system doesn't work either. I was thinking of just finding windows 2000 and use that, because at least it would run. But i'd much rather kububtu. I can't think of anything else that would cause it. Help? Please, anything, don't serve me as a living sacrifice to windows, please...?
Old 02-16-2007, 02:39 AM   #2
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Try to boot in single-user mode, and make corrections in config manually.
Old 02-16-2007, 02:57 AM   #3
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Have you tried pressing cnt-alt-F2 during the boot process ? That should get you to a command line. If that doesn't work you could use a knoppix or dsl (50mb download) live cd to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly so you boot into text mode rather than a graphical login. Have you thought about using a different distro ? Kubuntu is a little heavy for that light of a machine, any might have trouble running kde on it too. If the cnt-alt-F2 switch to a console trick doesn't work just post here again, and we'll get it figured out.....


P.S. you can install dsl to the hard drive, and dsl will just fly on that machine. You can try it out as a live cd too. Good luck...

P.P.S cnt-alt-F7 will get you back to the graphical x-server, and all the rest will go to a virtual console. cnt-alt-backspace will restart your x-server, if you need to. Once you get to the command line, as root or sudo edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to disable the 24bit color. Change it to 12 bit or whatever, and see if that works. You will want to make a copy of that file before you change it. "cp -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" should work fine. Good luck....

P.P.P.S I just re-read your post....did you manage to get linux installed in the first place ? I think we are assuming you did, when it isn't clear from your post. If you are unsure if you even have linux installed correctly, you might want to use (K)ubuntu's alternate install cd, and install in text mode, to at least be sure you have linux installed correctly. Your machine may be hanging up trying to run the graphical installer without the horsepower to do so.

Hope we have helped a bit.


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Old 02-16-2007, 03:30 AM   #4
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I run very similar kit; 700 Mz P-III, 256 Meg, 20 Gig drive and CyberBlade/XP. Runs Ubuntu (Gnome) fine, along with Win2k.
As it happens I use 24-bit 1024x768 - the default I think.

Boot to single user mode - edit the kernel line in the boot menu (read the messages - just highlight and hit <e> before the timeout). Add " S" (space-capital S) and let it boot.
Then you can amend the xorg.conf.
If you still can't read the screen, you've also got other problems - try adding "vga=normal" as well.
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I have put several distros on my PIII with no issues: 733MHz, 192M RAM

Add to other help:
For the details on xorg.conf do "man xorg.conf"
Do some searches and/or go to the mfg site to see what driver is needed for you card. start by simply typing the name and model # and "Linux" into Google.
Old 02-16-2007, 09:49 AM   #6
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I think the 133M RAM may be the problem. Try xubuntu
Old 02-18-2007, 06:16 PM   #7
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Well, i simply bought another graphics card and have decided, to use that one. (haven't tried it yet. It only cost 5 dollars anyway. Well, i can get the machine to run fine if i plug the monitor into thew motherboard. And i've heard of a lot of compatibility issues with my graphics card and linux. Kubuntu seems to run fine, plus that's the distro i've decided to learn to use, because I'm soon going to have refurbish machines from industry and give them away. And kubuntu is most like windows. dw i have a friend who can do the really hard things for me if it gets rough. But i decided to learn some more for myself. (learn by doing). But i think i'll try dsl it sounds good.
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Sounds like the problem I had with Kubuntu, check out this thread:


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