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Old 01-15-2016, 05:02 PM   #16
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Why not stick to Linux and sleep easy at night?



You probably don't. You just have to assess the seller and his surroundings as best you can in the case of Craigslist. Let's face it, we all buy stuff on ebay and we rarely meet the seller face-to face.


Well (in the UK) you would forfeit the laptop, lose your money and hope that you were not prosecuted for aiding and abetting a felony or dealing in stolen property.



That is about as cheap as you can get for a quality piece of software. The free versions do not stop the modern ransomware, as many people have found out to their cost.
I just hit the pawn shopes that way I can at least get a look at it and open it up (sometimes) chek the BIO and things of this nature and still talk the price down a bit too.
 
Old 01-15-2016, 05:18 PM   #17
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One problem I have with used laptops is the seem to cost too much. If I were to compare other electronic or even mechanical devices in terms of use then I'd have to say the laptops tend to be sold too high. Or people pay too much for them. Not to mention the high instances of stolen merchandise on these web sites.

I'd rather buy new and donate my used stuff after I've wiped it.
 
Old 01-15-2016, 05:27 PM   #18
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I got this (almost fully upgraded (could go one up with the processor but won't)) T420 cheap because it was dropped (so cheap the SSD costs more ) plus have an older ThinkPad T20 as well, IMHO they rock.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...Cppr_max%3A100
Yeah, sometimes the prices get flip-flopped. I bought a Roku for $14.99 and when I called tech for help they wanted to sell me an extended warranty for $19.99.
 
Old 01-15-2016, 05:31 PM   #19
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Dont feel bad, I just feel sorry you missed it, that's all...
Too bad you cannot get to the outlet I visit at times...they send per mail too, but, I dunnow to where
Melissa
Thanks Melissa. Interesting site. Now I'll have just have to figure out how to figure out the conversion from euros to dollars.
 
Old 01-15-2016, 05:39 PM   #20
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Gregg,

Why not stick to Linux and sleep easy at night?
Because--unfortunately--I'm not that smart.

I don't know. I'd like a new keyboard and a bigger screen. So I can actually buy one of these things and keep it off-line. But then it would be kind of nice to have Windows if I need it. And I could use Word to see how my .odt docs look when I open them up there. (Or my .odt docs that were converted to .docx.)



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Well (in the UK) you would forfeit the laptop, lose your money and hope that you were not prosecuted for aiding and abetting a felony or dealing in stolen property.
Meh, what's another felony.

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That is about as cheap as you can get for a quality piece of software. The free versions do not stop the modern ransomware, as many people have found out to their cost.
No way. There's got to be a free way of doing this. Or can't I just tell hackers not to do it any more?

And anyway, it looks like the only way to get the Cryptolocker virus is if you open an attachment in an email. So if you're super careful in that regard, an ordinary anti-virus should be enough, right?

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Old 01-15-2016, 05:43 PM   #21
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I just hit the pawn shopes that way I can at least get a look at it and open it up (sometimes) chek the BIO and things of this nature and still talk the price down a bit too.
Yeah, I couldn't buy a laptop on ebay. What if I hated the keyboard? I might be able to buy a desktop, but a laptop is too personal. Or what if the screen was not right? At least buying it on Craigslist I can get the seller to fire it up and try the keyboard.

And even then you can get burned. That's why I was willing to part with $50. But that's about the top of my pain threshold.
 
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One problem I have with used laptops is the seem to cost too much. If I were to compare other electronic or even mechanical devices in terms of use then I'd have to say the laptops tend to be sold too high. Or people pay too much for them. Not to mention the high instances of stolen merchandise on these web sites.

I'd rather buy new and donate my used stuff after I've wiped it.
Donate to me!
 
Old 01-15-2016, 09:25 PM   #23
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donate to me!
Hilarious!

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Old 01-16-2016, 03:21 AM   #24
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it looks like the only way to get the Cryptolocker virus is if you open an attachment in an email. So if you're super careful in that regard, an ordinary anti-virus should be enough, right?
I suggest that you read up on CryptoLocker and similar ransomware because opening email attachments is just one of several ways that CL can attack your Windows machine.

1. Have you heard of a drive-by download?

2. When you download some free software how do you know that it does not also contain rootkits, trojans etc?

These are just 2 two examples.

I suggest that you sign up for a FREE introductory course on Cyber Security such as this one:

https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/...cyber-security


Why bother with MS Word when you have LO Writer?

With regard to finding a used laptop, just keep asking around locally.

Some non-technical people just buy a new replacement when their original machine gets malware of some description and they cannot be bothered with it any more or they do not want to pay for a repair.

People move house and have yard sales. There are bereavements etc. Numerous routes are available.

Keep your eyes and ears open.

You should ask rokytnji on these forums for some tips on acquiring replacement laptops cheaply!!

PS Have a look for something like this Lenovo T500 widescreen 15.4 inch:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T500-...IAAOSwHPlWhGdk

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Old 01-16-2016, 12:18 PM   #25
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What happens if I end up buying a stolen one?
Not likely if you buy in a store that sells second handers. A store usually (always in belgium) is registered somehow
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Old 01-16-2016, 01:59 PM   #26
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Hilarious!
Ha ha.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 02:14 PM   #27
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I suggest that you read up on CryptoLocker and similar ransomware because opening email attachments is just one of several ways that CL can attack your Windows machine.

1. Have you heard of a drive-by download?

2. When you download some free software how do you know that it does not also contain rootkits, trojans etc?
Even if you download from a place like Filehippo or SourceFourge? And then after you download it you can check it at VirusTotal before you run it, right? That should make things pretty safe.

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I suggest that you sign up for a FREE introductory course on Cyber Security such as this one:

https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/...cyber-security

The course looks good, thanks. (I don't know about that guy's glasses, though.)

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Why bother with MS Word when you have LO Writer?
Well, because almost everybody I deal with wants a Word doc. So if I have Word I can see what my converted .odt doc (converted to .docx, that is) will look like on MS Word.
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With regard to finding a used laptop, just keep asking around locally.

Some non-technical people just buy a new replacement when their original machine gets malware of some description and they cannot be bothered with it any more or they do not want to pay for a repair.

People move house and have yard sales. There are bereavements etc. Numerous routes are available.

Keep your eyes and ears open.

You should ask rokytnji on these forums for some tips on acquiring replacement laptops cheaply!!
Good advice. Thanks.
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PS Have a look for something like this Lenovo T500 widescreen 15.4 inch:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T500-...IAAOSwHPlWhGdk
Yeah, it looks good but it's "for parts" and kind of pricey, for me anyway. And that's one of the bummers of Ebay. They'll have the price at $49 dollars and then have a $32 shipping charge.

I don't know. I think Cragslist is the way to go. Yes, I can get burned but at least I'll see the machine beforehand and no shipping charges.

And I couldn't see buying a laptop with known malware on it. I just don't have the computer skills to clean it up properly.
 
  


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