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Old 06-12-2004, 10:04 PM   #1
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Question My Isp On Linux!


my isp is peoplepc

im on a 56k

they said val email

it will not work on linux somthing like that

im geting red hat core 2

is there a way to get it to work?


i have the cd but i have to download there crap

can it be done
 
Old 06-12-2004, 11:21 PM   #2
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i think i read that you can't actually

maybe if you shareyour inet connection in winodws and network another pc using linux...
 
Old 06-12-2004, 11:22 PM   #3
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eww

 
Old 06-12-2004, 11:41 PM   #4
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Connecting to any ISP exept for AOL is usually pretty easy unless you have a winmodem. All ISPs I know use standard connections.

What is val email? How do you get your mail now?

BTW, If it isn't in their check list, your ISP "help", isn't. They have no clues, believe me. My ISP help managed to kill my Windows internet connection and suggested I re-install everything and lose everything I had. That is when I made my decision to install Linux, BTW....

# Modem and connection troubleshooting
WinModems and Linux
Modem HOWTO
Modem NHFs
Linmodems.org
Conexant/Rockwell modem HOWTO
The Unofficial PCTel Linux Driver page
I finaly got my PcTel hsp56 mr modem to work
PcTel PCT789 Compilation in Fedora Core 1
Linux driver for Winmodems with Lucent Apollo (ISA) and Mars (PCI) chipsets
Lucent AMR modem listed as an Intel AC'97 - Smart Link Modems
The kppp Handbook
Dial-up Networking Configuration Using KDE's Kppp
Troubleshooting ISP Connection Problems
Connecting to AOL with Linux

# Configuring a real hardware pci modem
To configure a pci modem, open an x terminal and su - to the root account:
Code:
[fancy@tinwhistle fancy]$ su -
Password: 
[root@tinwhistle root]# cat /proc/pci
Look for your modem in the returned list. Look for something similar to mine:
Code:
  Bus  2, device   2, function  0:
    Communication controller: PCI device 151f:0000 (TOPIC SEMICONDUCTOR Corp) (rev 0).
      IRQ 5.
      I/O at 0xc400 [0xc407].
With this info, I use the setserial command:
Code:
[root@tinwhistle root]# setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5 port 0xc400 uart 16550a
Then I test the modem with the internet connection wizard and it works. I edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local and enter the setserial command:
Code:
[root@tinwhistle root]# pico -w /etc/rc.d/rc.local
My file for an example
Code:
#!/bin/sh
# Redhat /etc/rc.d/rc.local file
# This script will be executed *after* all the other init scripts.
# You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't
# want to do the full Sys V style init stuff.

touch /var/lock/subsys/local
# configure modem
setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5 port 0xc400 uart 16550a
Now, it remains configured after a reboot.

I have a win<something> or some other kernel module driver I have to install.
# Compiling/installing kernel modules
You will need to have installed:
1. The developmental packages (compiler)
2. The kernel-source code that matches your running kernel
3. The module source or install code

Check out your system and look under the hood and see if you installed the stuff you need to do the job. Open an x terminal and type in this sequence of commands to see what kernel we are running and see if you have the kernel source installed:
Code:
[fancy@tinwhistle fancy]$ su -
Password:
[root@tinwhistle root]# uname -r
2.4.20-28.7
I am running kernel version 2.4.20-28.7. Do I have the proper source code?
Code:
[root@tinwhistle root]# cd /usr/src
[root@tinwhistle src]# ls -alc
total 3
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root          136 Jun 12 14:53 .
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          424 Jun  4 12:04 ..
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4 -> linux-2.4.20-28.7
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          584 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4.20-28.7
drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root          168 Jun  4 12:08 redhat
[root@tinwhistle src]#
I do have the same kernel version source code installed in the directory /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-28.7 and there is a symbolic link named linux-2.4 pointing to it.

If you don't see something similiar to this (but in color), you will need to install the kernel source.

NOTE: I noticed that Red Hat didn't make the symbolic link /usr/src/linux that all of the INSTALL files that I have read mentioned that I need. I may as well make one now to save editing the files in the source code every time I need to compile anything concerning the kernel. So, I'll make that link just now:
Code:
[root@tinwhistle src]# ln -s linux-2.4.20-28.7 linux         
[root@tinwhistle src]# ls -alc
total 3
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root          160 Jun 12 15:46 .
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          424 Jun  4 12:04 ..
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun 12 15:46 linux -> linux-2.4.20-28.7
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4 -> linux-2.4.20-28.7
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          584 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4.20-28.7
drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root          168 Jun  4 12:08 redhat
[root@tinwhistle src]#
Ah, there it is, so that's done.

Next, did I install the compiler?
Code:
[root@tinwhistle src]# gcc -v          
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-113)
[root@tinwhistle src]#
Yes, I have a compiler installed.

If you don't have those two things installed, you have to install them first off your install CD.

If they are installed, download the source and happy compiling. Make sure you carefully read the README and INSTALL files after extracting and before compiling/installing.

Last edited by fancypiper; 06-12-2004 at 11:43 PM.
 
Old 06-13-2004, 12:06 AM   #5
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Won't hurt to try it.

What you need is the dial-up number, primary and secondary dns servers(may or may not need ot use these. i don't), and mail server addresses.

Easiest way is if you have KDE installed, open up kppp and put in the ISP dial-up number, choose your modem device, put in your username and password and give it a try.
 
Old 06-13-2004, 04:28 PM   #6
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let me know if it works
 
Old 06-13-2004, 04:32 PM   #7
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Ugh, I'd never use an ISP that made you install their software to get online.
 
Old 06-13-2004, 06:39 PM   #8
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I'd never use an ISP that made you install their software to get online over once. Long distance AOL was the only option when I first got on-line. <shudder>

That was terrible!
 
Old 06-14-2004, 02:40 AM   #9
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eww

i don't know
 
Old 06-14-2004, 10:42 AM   #10
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If you can't give info that only you are privvy to and can't/won't let the community in on the secrets, all you can look forward to is what you getting: no answers that help.

How to get good answers with your questions about Linux

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Old 12-28-2004, 10:04 AM   #11
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PeoplePC and Linux

You can use PeoplePC with Linux but it takes some work in Windows. PeoplePC dailer takes the number you called in on and your original password and morphs it into a NEW 32 character password to REALLY login. You need to use Dialguard 1.0 (Not the new version 2.2?) to get this NEW password and then just plug it into a DUN in Linux. Using their prefered and alternate DNS server numbers (198.6.1.150/198.6.100.150). Works for Windows too. Faster login and page refresh as a bonus.
 
Old 12-28-2004, 01:45 PM   #12
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I'd switch to a Dialup that didn't require anything to be installed to use it.
 
Old 06-05-2005, 05:53 PM   #13
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Re: PeoplePC and Linux

Quote:
Originally posted by Jabopa
You can use PeoplePC with Linux but it takes some work in Windows. PeoplePC dailer takes the number you called in on and your original password and morphs it into a NEW 32 character password to REALLY login. You need to use Dialguard 1.0 (Not the new version 2.2?) to get this NEW password and then just plug it into a DUN in Linux. Using their prefered and alternate DNS server numbers (198.6.1.150/198.6.100.150). Works for Windows too. Faster login and page refresh as a bonus.
What is DUN in Linux
 
Old 06-05-2005, 06:04 PM   #14
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You don't have a local isp where you are. I know there's a hack to dialup to aol for linux. I never could get it to work so I just got a normal isp that uses dialup networking. The linux equivalent is ppp which has many frontends graphical and console.
 
Old 08-01-2006, 11:56 PM   #15
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Hi all,

I realize this thread is a litttle stale. I found it when researching some stuff in preparation for trying to get a PeoplePC user to try Linux. I thought I'd post a couple pieces of info I just found that might help others that stumble onto this thread.

First, I was at least as baffled as cheetahman about what DUN is.
DUN = Dialup Networking (I think!)
Kind of brings up those horrible memories of the MS world! I believe the author was referring to such things as WvDail and kppp.

If you're looking for version 1.0 of Dialguard, the author makes it available here. And it is GPLed!!! (And I am not that big of a fan of smileys, but that seems to be the right response to the author GPLing this.) Source and MS Windows binaries are available for download.

I haven't tried any of this out yet.

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