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Old 02-22-2019, 06:00 AM   #1
Andrew Lohmann
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MX16 to MX17 or 18 upgrade - Introducing myself


This is my first post to this forum but I have been using various Linux Desktop distributions since 2013/4. I use GUI's rather than text command where possible.

I run some old Laptops and a desktop - The one laptop a Vaio (PCG-8P1M) can not be booted from USB without using plop. Can not handle a memory stick greater than 2GB. The laptop is reasonably fast and has 1G of DDR.

I could not install Debian LXDE higher than 8.11 or MX higher than 16.1 but Debian and therefore MX16 will coming to the end of there life in April. MX is my preferred OS because I have not resolved the issues with sound and brightness level control in Debian.

My problem is that there is no migration path MX16 to 17 see; https://mxlinux.org/migration

Another solution is to get MX17 not MX17.1 but the latter is not available and I do not have copy of MX17 any more. Going through the many modes MX17 did eventually install. I don't in any case want to keep using my USB stick as I only have one can't get another and they do break after a time.

The last part is that MX16 does offer GRUB configuring so I can set it to launch an ISO but it does not work? I put my .iso in the root of Windows that is also on the laptop.
 
Old 02-22-2019, 11:43 AM   #2
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Why not 17.1 or 18? both are based on debian stretch.


old versions are still available on our sourceforge site: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-linux/files/Old/
 
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:21 PM   #3
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Welcome aboard, Andrew! Would like to ask the same question:

"Why not 17.1 or 18? both are based on debian stretch."
 
Old 02-22-2019, 12:22 PM   #4
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MX16 will coming to the end of there life in April.
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Debian 8 “Jessie”


i386, amd64, armel and armhf


from 17th June 2018 to June 30, 2020
Code:
harry@shop1:~
$ inxi -Fxxxz
System:    Host: shop1 Kernel: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 4.9.2 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.2 tk: Gtk 2.24.25 info: xfce4-panel wm: Xfwm4 dm: lightdm 1.10.3 
           Distro: MX-16_x64 Metamorphosis 12 December 2016 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Precision WorkStation T3400 v: N/A 
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 7 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0TP412 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A09 date: 06/04/2009 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E7400 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn 
           rev: 10 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 bogomips: 11164 
           Speed: 2791 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2791 2: 2791 
Graphics:  Card-1: NVIDIA G71 [GeForce 7900 GS] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:0292 
           Display: server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nv,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV49 v: 2.1 Mesa 12.0.3 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Card-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           chip ID: 8086:293e 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.0-0.bpo.5-amd64 
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 v: 3.137 
           port: N/A bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 14e4:167a 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 149.05 GiB used: 50.60 GiB (33.9%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3160812AS size: 149.05 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s 
           serial: <filter> rev: E scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 7.56 GiB used: 4.93 GiB (65.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
           ID-2: /home size: 15.06 GiB used: 2.37 GiB (15.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 3.91 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda8 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 56 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1033 
Info:      Processes: 181 Uptime: 11m Memory: 3.80 GiB used: 695.5 MiB (17.9%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 4.9.2 alt: 4.9 Shell: bash v: 4.3.30 
           running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.0.10 
harry@shop1:~
$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/jessie/ jessie main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ mx15 main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx16.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ mx16 non-free main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
 
Old 02-22-2019, 12:26 PM   #5
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When 16 EOL on me. I copy and paste and zip up backups and do a reinstall. Only In MX,

If I wanna go rolling. Like you want. AntiX testing or unstable.

Ha. 74 updates available since I bootyed up the shop computer. Bye.

Last edited by rokytnji; 02-22-2019 at 12:28 PM.
 
Old 02-22-2019, 02:26 PM   #6
Andrew Lohmann
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I am working on it but some answers

New information --- I have updated Debian 8.11 to Debian 9 (by changing repositories) and it ran through fine. Debian 9 does not start up with kernel 4.9... but does start up with Kernel 3.16...

Old versions on sourceforce --- I did not find those before. Thanks.

Why not MX 17.1 etc. --- I have a suggested the problem/solution from elsewhere; The BIOS needs updating but the problem is that this is a Sanyo machine and all the drivers have been removed. I found a Sanyo BIOS update but it is not suitable for this laptop. The other option might be, I am advised, to turn apci=off in GRUB command line.

MX16 ending - it is Debian (8) Jessie based and as I say that is coming to the end of its life soon - I just check again and see now there is also an LTS version running till 2020, I had missed that Firefox-ESR will need to be replaced, therefore. I have not read what MX Anti-X say about EOL though?


Lastly, I have not worked through these proposed solutions yet but thanks. I will return later.
 
Old 02-23-2019, 01:23 PM   #7
Andrew Lohmann
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Thumbs up I have not got a good answer.

I pursued the BIOS issue -- I can't update the BIOS the tool appears to run on XP but is meant for Windows 7 but has nothing to do.

There are posts all over Linux forums on "MP-BIOS BUG 8254 timer not connected" which seems to be the relevant line during startup.

The GRUB options command line -- noapci --- apci=off ---- these did not resolve the issue.

I have the option I will pursue later to manual upgrade MX 16.1 to MX17.0 -- that might break in time it might work?

So the computer will keep running for at least another year maybe a lot longer, that might be the best I can do?

Thanks for giving me some suggestions.
 
  


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