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Old 07-09-2014, 10:34 AM   #1
rc_mandar
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Talking Debian fluxbox


Hey guys,

I have been Windows user for a long time and finally i had courage to step on the right side. I have been using Ubuntu for 4 months now and i want more.

I have got myself a second laptop in order to mess things around on a proper playground instead of destroying my work setup.

I have browsed a lot and i think i will install 3 distros to deepen my knowledge.

1) Debian kde --> http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/de...ybrid/?C=S;O=A

2) Korora (also kde)

3) I m not sure :-(


please comment. Also i m not sure if the link i mentioned for debian installation is right or not.


Please reply.

Thanks

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Old 07-09-2014, 10:59 AM   #2
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I think that having a Debian and a Red Hat version give you a good view of different ways of doing things. Korora certainly speeds up the installation of Fedora, but personally I'd use SolydK rather than the original Debian — it's less likely to break when updating. For the third distro, I'd suggest Salix. That's a user-friendly version of Slackware, so different from the others. That way you'd have representatives of the three oldest streams of Linux development.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 11:04 AM   #3
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Hey there David,

thanks for your reply.

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I'd use SolydK rather than the original Debian it's less likely to break when updating.
I am confused. What's the difference between actual Debian and a Linux distro based on it. I have put Debian on 1st spot coz i need to learn it. There's a chance that will have to use it in an Office.

Thanks again.

Guys please do reply.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 11:07 AM   #4
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He has had Debian break when it was updating,.. so now he is using a derivative that is run and maintained by different people with different viewpoints on how things are to be done. Generally this is done to improve something that is seen as faulty. Derivatives can range from minor differences to major overhauls, you would have to read the project page to find the exact differences.

If you are getting ready to roll a distribution out, IMO it is safer to go with a top level distro (Red Hat, Debian, etc) because of the support. You will not find much support for a small derivative, but you will find plenty of support for a primary distro.

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Old 07-09-2014, 11:17 AM   #5
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This is what i found on http://solydxk.com/about/solydxk/


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A bit of history

You find SolydXK’s roots in another great distribution: Linux Mint.

There were two distributions which I liked very much: Linux Mint KDE and Linux Mint Debian Edition. There were once rumors that the two would merge, but unfortunately that didn’t happen. So, I decided to make my own distribution. First as a tutorial in the forum, but later it became known as “The unofficial LMDE KDE”. When Linux Mint dropped their LMDE Xfce edition, I started that one from scratch and “The unofficial LMDE Xfce” was born.

Both these editions were mainly created with the help of the community. Without them they simply wouldn’t exist. Especially with the Xfce edition where the community decided which software was to be included and which software not. So, these distributions are really community driven.

When it became clear that the unofficial editions were not going to become official I decided to take the next step and let these great distributions stand on their own two feet and the unofficials got their proper names: SolydX and SolydK.

SolydXK will not forget its roots. SolydXK and Linux Mint closely work together to make our distributions even better.

Schoelje,
14/02/2013

there's not much there on the website regarding differences or rather changes to Debian base that they did.

M lost. http://distrowatch.com/search.php?basedon=Debian

Last edited by rc_mandar; 07-09-2014 at 11:25 AM. Reason: additional info
 
Old 07-09-2014, 12:24 PM   #6
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okay.... after reading this: If the user wants to get a base system and build it up and learn a bit about Linux on the way without getting tied up in knots then Debian is a great base to start learning from. Debian also provides a stable branch, testing branch and unstable branch so it is up to each user whether they want cutting edge software that is untested or a stable system that is relatively bug free.

There are so many distributions out there that have a Debian base and therefore that definitely makes Debian the daddy of distros but for ease of use there are better alternatives such as Mint, Zorin and SolusOS.

on http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/201...l-distros.html

i am firm on Debian KDE. Please suggest me distros for 2nd and 3rd spots.

Please reply folks.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 01:22 PM   #7
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SolusOS died a while ago when the developer threw in the towel. Sad as I used it and it was a really good system.

All the Buntu's (and derivatives) have a Debian base but I don't see them as Debian systems as they are quite removed from the "father". Mint has a Debian edition as well as a Buntu based edition and SolydXK is also a very polished system based on Debian testing. At the end of the day a system with the KDE interface will operate much the same regardless of the family tree - the big difference will be in package management. A very nice KDE system that hasn't been mentioned is PCLinuxOS which has it's roots in the Mandrake system...
 
Old 07-09-2014, 02:31 PM   #8
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Multiple distro setup

slack. freebsd. arch and gentoo(funtoo)
 
Old 07-09-2014, 03:54 PM   #9
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I have got myself a second laptop in order to mess things around on a proper playground instead of destroying my work setup.
That's what VMs are for, no second laptop required.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 08:29 PM   #10
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I agree with suicidaleggroll. If the second laptop is capable of it (that means, have enough RAM and HDD space), put one distro on it, then set up a virtualizer such as VirtualBox. You can have a number of different VMs and experiment with them in turn without having to set up dual or triple boot.

I have four or five VMs on that other computer over there ----->, though I generally don't run more than one at a time. When I want to take a look at a new distro, I generally just fire up VirtualBox and test it out.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 08:53 PM   #11
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I agree with the others here, use virtualbox to give a distro a try. There are so many, distrowatch is a good place to look at a bunch.

I have been going with the Ubuntu variants for years, and have settled on Ubuntu Studio. But, I like XFCE as my de. Ubuntu has tons of online support, pretty much anything you can think of to do, someone has wrote about it somewhere for Ubuntu. And, most of those carry over to Debian and Debian how to's normally carry over to Ubuntu, but it can depend on what it is. If it is adding a ppa to install some piece of software, some of them can even be tweaked to work on Debian (some will break things).

I would say. Take that extra computer and play away. Install a distro, tweak, play, break, and fix it, then install another distro and do it again!
 
Old 07-10-2014, 03:01 AM   #12
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@boog321: Yo!

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I would say. Take that extra computer and play away. Install a distro, tweak, play, break, and fix it, then install another distro and do it again!

I have read about multiple booting setup, how to do it and stuff. What will be the ideal sequence to go for it considering Debian KDE 7.5.0, Korora 20, and something may be salix.

Please reply!
 
Old 07-10-2014, 04:21 AM   #13
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1) Debian kde --> http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/de...ybrid/?C=S;O=A

2) Korora (also kde)

3) I m not sure :-(
You don't need Debian unofficial KDE liveCD to install KDE, you can do it right from an official DVD or Netinstall disk.

Why Korora and not Fedora? Korora is just Fedora with everything already done for you, there is nothing you can learn from that. Also CentOS 7 has been released just few days ago, it's IMHO even better option if you want to 'deepen your knowledge'.

The same applies for Salix. Slackware is much better choice.

As for an ideal sequence, if you want to multiboot, i would say it doesn't matter much. But as you will most likely partition your harddrive in the first installed distro, so don't start with the Fedora family since their partitioner is widely recognized to be a piece of crap.
 
Old 07-10-2014, 04:51 AM   #14
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I multi-boot. I like to have Debian as the first distro. Your idea of having a second computer to mess around with, I think that's a great way to go.

Many people like VMs and will suggest that; I prefer hard drive installations. To each their own.

I don't think there is an ideal sequence, but I tend to prefer having the more long-term distros first and the ones I consider to be more "experimental" last.

Over time, I've found that I have a preference for distros that have been around for a long time, have larger development teams, and that have lots of good documentation available. I'm okay with messing around with "smaller" distros in some situations (CrunchBang is one that I'm running here right now), but I do end up using the "bigger" ones longer, over time.

I'm sure that SolydXK is a fine distro, but I have not had any problems with breakage while using Debian Stable (Debian user since Etch).

If I were to suggest other distros for you to add, Arch and openSUSE come to mind.
 
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if i have to suggest a distro, i would suggest slackware and debian.
 
  


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