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Old 08-28-2008, 06:32 AM   #1
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Question more memory or older version


After a lot of help from the installation section of this forum I have 8.1 up and limping. Since slackware 8.1 is stressing this system should I try putting in more memory or drop to an older build. I know in windows more memory does not help problems like this. but I keep thinking that I read once that memory really did help linux. Also does anyone know of a book that is meant for older versions of slackware. Is there a better mouse server then gpm. does gnome use less resources then kde. I like kde but I only have a 133MHZ cpu and 32 megs of memory so I have to conserve. I did make a 300MB swapfile. Sorry about so many questions in one post but being new to this I have a lot of questions.

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Old 08-28-2008, 07:03 AM   #2
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With only 32 megs of RAM, you should either give up on KDE or go to a really ancient version of KDE which will be quite feature poor. How much do you love KDE?

GNOME does not use less resources than KDE. With 32 megs of RAM, either will be ridiculously slow.

I'd recommend you use IceWM instead, and don't use any session manager. Instead, log in to the console and use "startx" to start up X.

I am not familiar with tweaking Slackware, but I do have Debian 4.0 running on a 120mhz Pentium computer with 32 megs of RAM. The basics are to do a minimal install (not even the so-called base software suite), and then to modify /etc/inittab to comment out all tty lines except the first one (this will save about 3megs of RAM--well worth it).
 
Old 08-28-2008, 07:05 AM   #3
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KDE is lighter than GNOME, but XFCE is lighter than KDE.
You should check Zenwalk, which is Slackware tuned for XFCE and low memory computers.
 
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KDE is lighter than GNOME, but XFCE is lighter than KDE.
You should check Zenwalk, which is Slackware tuned for XFCE and low memory computers.
Can I use a floppy to set up zenwalk. My comp does not boot and I do not know enough to do that loop thing that you use as a hardrive install. I like kde compared to gnome. I played with an old laptop that had dsl on it and it had buybox I think and I liked that. but that installs from a live cd. Ok let me check out zenwalk then stick some more memory in and a ethernet card and i will post results.. maybe I will get lucky and xfce will be on. I loaded everything that did not say it was for gnome. because I do not know what I will want.
 
Old 08-28-2008, 11:44 AM   #5
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If you can install more memory, do that. Do that even if you are going to change to a more economical GUI, like XFCE, but the minimum acceptable level will be higher with KDE and Gnome than with something more frugal.

The last time I did any tests, I found that Gnome used less memory than KDE, but, for me, neither were tolerable below 96 Meg (this is some time ago and with SuSE rather than something more frugal, and testing to my criteria rather than yours so your exact levels will be different, but the general trend will be the same).
 
Old 08-28-2008, 05:29 PM   #6
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Given the time this computor came out I will be surprised if it excepts more then 64 megs there is a small chance I can go up to 128.
check zenwalk but could not find an option to load using floppy. Icewm came out in slack 10.0 xfce is in 8.1 but I have not found it yet. hate to give up koffice. I am going to try downloading slack 6.0 or 7.0 and see how that works.
 
Old 08-28-2008, 05:36 PM   #7
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I have a 120mhz Pentium computer with 96megs of RAM. I'm sure it could go up to 128megs of RAM if I could get my hands on another pair of 32meg SIMMS (like most earlier Pentium motherboards, this one takes 4 72pin SIMMS).

The real question is whether you really feel like spending ANY money on upgrading the RAM of such an old computer. If you're like me, the answer is no.

Note--you can run koffice or any other KDE application in IceWM or other popular lightweight window managers. Just make sure all of the required dependencies are also installed (this is automatically handled with a distribution like Debian).
 
Old 08-28-2008, 07:06 PM   #8
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It has became an obselete question. I opened my case to check the memory type. and it the old 32 pin? Oh well the stuff that came out before 72 pin. I do not think that came in more then 8 meg sticks. anyway I have a lot of that old memory going back to 386 days. I pop out a stick of memory and broke the holders so I striped the case and junked it. It gives a power supply that I can use with radios and the floppy and hdd and cd I will use to build another comp. You know I have the memory here to upgrade your comp if you want it. I think I have 64 meg sticks but if not I can fill your other slot with another 32. I have a couple amd boards here with 2.0 cpu I can put together. That will give me a faster cpu and 1 gig memory.
 
  


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