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Old 06-03-2018, 03:20 PM   #61
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It says how you think you broke it. It does not say anything about how you fixed it. It does not say that you reinstalled, only that you intended to.
Yeah, well, it doesn't matter now. It's not like any of us know how to fix it lol.
 
Old 06-03-2018, 03:23 PM   #62
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Do you really think I'm about to install an entirely new WM just to test what I already know? No.
Most distros install IceWM by default. It's less than 3MB installed, and a great troubleshooting aid.
 
Old 06-03-2018, 03:27 PM   #63
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The screen blanking stopped. I didn't do anything it just fixed itself on its own somehow.
Maybe it was the subsequent xorg.conf undid what -configure's did.

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Still comes back to 1920x1080, but it at least comes back.
Then you don't have a true solution. You only regained what you had lost. A correct solution would have you running 1360x768 automatically.
 
Old 06-03-2018, 03:38 PM   #64
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Then you don't have a true solution. You only regained what you had lost. A correct solution would have you running 1360x768 automatically.
That's right! I'm cutting my losses lol. The issue in the title of the thread was solved. We just don't know how.
Oh well! hahaha
 
Old 06-03-2018, 05:03 PM   #65
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Most computer displays have a preferred mode that is the highest supported mode. 720p TVs are a big exception to the PC display general rule, and as a result, evidently (based on far more than just this thread) more troublesome for PC users. Yours is marketed as 720p, which like all 720ps must support 1080 TV programming, so the higher mode is technically "supported" by built-in upconversion, something PC software seems to be less than optimally equipped to deal with.
 
Old 06-03-2018, 05:41 PM   #66
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_roman_ either delete your post or read the thread again and edit what you said.

There's just so many things wrong there that I don't have the time for it.
@jfhendfg,

They have been contacted about this. Off topic posts, especially those with personal agendas need to stop.
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IT has a reason why a nvidia card costs some money and an intel one is crap.

Most noob friendy is an nvidia card. than start nvidia-settings. detect monitor. configure, apply. done. if you want ot keep it, you can generate that xorg.config

intel gpu is problematic since 10 years at least. it is more for text based shells, not for graphical user interfaces. it has lower HDMI standards and other flaws.

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I aslo recommend rule out a hardware issue.

use a decent linux iso or a proper linux distribution. debian is definitely not a proper distro.

use another proper working cable. use some other connection port.

use a working computer

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and no it is not xorg related. it is more systemd + newbie debian distro related. debian based distros have many flaws. since years. also debian ships unsecure outdated packages, see. e.g xscreensaver what the guy wrote on his homepage.

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Usually since many years before systemd disease, you did not even need an xorg.conf
I had my gentoo running for several years without a xorg.conf on different hardware platforms.
again use a proper distro, or configure your hardware properly
and also buy a proper gpu. (for those guys who disagree => go to kernel.org and see all those intel related acpi / gpu / brightness / intel uefi issues and other issues. unanswered, unsolved, unfixed since many years!)



Is it such hard to use rm command to delete a config file as superuser?
This has not changed since slackware 96
 
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:21 PM   #67
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Well, just how it fixed itself on it's own, it has now broken itself on it's own again.

All I've been trying to do since I stopped messing with it was try to fix VLC by uninstalling it and reinstalling it (that's the only thing I can thing of that could have possibly had even the slightest effect on this issue)

I hate these kind of issues. They come out of nowhere and they're impossible to fix :'(
 
Old 06-03-2018, 07:51 PM   #68
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MrMazda I guess I'm going to try your IceWM troubleshooting idea tomorrow. I don't care what happens to my system anymore it looks like we aren't going to fix this and I'm going to have to reinstall.

I worked so hard on customizing this over the years and now it's all gone over one stupid bug. I hate myself right now.
Every time I try to fix stuff like this in life it just makes everything infinitely worse it makes everything feel so futile!
 
Old 06-03-2018, 07:56 PM   #69
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MrMazda I guess I'm going to try your IceWM troubleshooting idea tomorrow. I don't care what happens to my system anymore it looks like we aren't going to fix this and I'm going to have to reinstall.

I worked so hard on customizing this over the years and now it's all gone over one stupid bug. I hate myself right now.
Every time I try to fix stuff like this in life it just makes everything infinitely worse it makes everything feel so futile!
I'll give you someone else to hate apart from yourself ... me.

... by saying that you should be making system backups/images/snapshots on a fairly regular basis, but definitely before a fiddling about session, so that you can easily roll back if things go awry.

In saying that, don't give up in this case. Remain open to possible solutions, even if you think they aren't.
 
Old 06-03-2018, 08:00 PM   #70
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... by saying that you should be making system backups/images/snapshots on a fairly regular basis, but definitely before a fiddling about session, so that you can easily roll back if things go awry.
Yeah I know and I didn't even do that I always neglected doing that because of the risk of rolling back into previous bugs like this that somehow solved themselves. Nothing's going to change how I feel right now I wasted my entire day off slaving over this and no results whatsoever in fact I'm in an even deeper hole than when I started. This is the worst!
 
Old 06-03-2018, 08:12 PM   #71
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I won't be able to check back until tomorrow afternoon.
MrMazda, or anyone for that matter, if you wouldn't mind looking at this (link) and helping try the patch?

Looks like it worked for other users maybe it could work for me too, I just don't know how to use it

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...1/+bug/1308105
 
Old 06-03-2018, 11:21 PM   #72
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I won't be able to check back until tomorrow afternoon.
MrMazda, or anyone for that matter, if you wouldn't mind looking at this (link) and helping try the patch?
Patching & compiling I don't do.

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Looks like it worked for other users maybe it could work for me too, I just don't know how to use it

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...1/+bug/1308105
That bug refers to an upstream bug that was fixed over a year ago, and NAICT, before the xfce4-settings version included in Stretch. If it doesn't show in the changelog of your installed version, you ought to be able to update to whatever version in backports or buster that has it included.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 02:05 PM   #73
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I really don't understand this at all. I just came home from work, turned my TV on, bam, image is right there.

Had to change the resolution but it's there.

This is just puzzling.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 02:28 PM   #74
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https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5863046
 
Old 06-04-2018, 03:14 PM   #75
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The kernel, GPU or the GPU's driver might be to blame. Notice I said 'might'.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen

I've been fighting with a puzzling issue myself for 2 weeks and can appreciate how you feel jfhendfg.
It can be quite frustrating infact; very annoying....but I'm not throwing in the towel just yet.
 
  


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