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Old 03-30-2005, 08:18 PM   #1
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Exclamation modem/internet/kde help


I would like to know where I could get an indepth tutorial on how to set up an internet connection using kppp and a dsl modem from qwest/msn/preimun member. its harder then it looks to find real help.
 
Old 03-30-2005, 08:29 PM   #2
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You don't use kppp with a dsl modem. Need a little more info.

DSL Modem brand and model?
Provider using static, dynamic, PPPOE?
Using a network or USB cable to connect? Netowrk perferred.

Quickest and easiest way to setup is buy a cable/dsl router. Setup the router to work with your provider. Then set the router up to run a DHCP server. Then on your Linux box connect to the router with a network cable and set eth0 to dhcp mode.

Reason for router is it will provide firewall security out of the box. Unless you you are knowledgeable in iptables for security.

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Old 03-30-2005, 09:18 PM   #3
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Angry bah!!!

i obviously dont know the modem brand and model but it says action tech dsl gateway on the front. the model says GT701-WG. ya i dont know what the sever is using for an ip address but i can check and i REALLY dont want to if i dont got to (cause costomer support sux). Im using a usb cable but can use wireless or ethernet also. and what do you mean "network," cable? and the router isnt going to happen (i wish i had millions of dallors to spend on all the sh/t people on forums suggest i buy, which normally doesnt help-work-or do anything for me ). No offense.
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its harder then it looks to find real help.
and thats the truth
 
Old 03-31-2005, 07:41 AM   #4
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Well, I'd suggest that you'd need to know what type of service your ISP supplies. Lot's of countries provide pppoe, here in UK it's all pppoa or cable.

then you'll need to know if you are getting a static (stays the same) or dynamic (changing) ip address. It's necessary, because the setup is different.

Plus, if you device is a USB one, then the setup is different to if you are using a modem/router device that connects to an ethernet card/plug in the PC.

the reason that it's often suggested that it's easier to have the ethernet device is that the modem or modem router will handle/manage the connection - often just set up via a browser pointed to the device, but you still need to know the info about the connection (IP, static/dynamic, whether the IP is getting to you via DHCP server etc etc).

then you just have to tell the router part the internal ip that you set - in a LAN connection, because that's how lots of devices see it, as a network. Sure it's not a "proper" network inasfaras lot's of connections to large numbers of PCs, but it works in a very similar way.

shit, if I had the machines (and enough ports to plug them into) I could run 254 different machines. Sure, the connection speed would be crap for each of the PCs if they all accessed the net simultaneously, but it's possible.

Hence, why "we" could do with more info. Maybe you could help, by putting a basic location in your id info (that appears on the left, country/county/state etc etc - after all, there could easily be someone in your area who knows something about the problems you're experiencing).

You might try checking this site as it seems to be about how you'd set up your device (and I found it by putting GT701WG into google). See if you can put the internal IP address which appears to default to http://192.168.0.1 into a browser, then if it asks you for a username and password, you should be able to get to the other info.

Oh, and if your system has an ethernet connection, then use that from the modem to the PC, it saves the hassle of trying to set up all the USB stuff as well. Though it may mean that you have to set things up as a LAN connection with windows as well, if you dual boot.

regards

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Old 04-01-2005, 09:16 AM   #5
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Ok I put in my account info and foun dthe following information.
firmware version 3.60.1.0.4.1-GT701-WG
Connection Connected
Mode PPPoA
IP address 63.224.215.54
Sudnet Mask 225.225.225.225
Gateway 207.225.41.2
DNS #1 205.171.3.65
DNS #2 205.171.2.65

LAN
IP address 192.168.0.1
225.225.225.0
DHCP on
 
Old 04-04-2005, 12:15 PM   #6
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hello?

what do i do know?
so unhelpful.
so unkaowlegeable
 
Old 04-06-2005, 09:48 AM   #7
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So, does this mean that you've still not connecting ???

Or have you tried to see if your system is pinging your modem/router?

Because with my setup, I have to have the modem/router with it's conntection set (similar to what you've posted, different IP's obviously).

But then, I have to allocate my system it's IP (I'll use the same no's as you for the example). My PC would then be talking to the device, so I'd have to call it 192.168.0.2 because the default LAN gateway would be the 192.168.0.1 for the system, then if the modem device is sorted, it should know that the LAN gateway of 192.168.0.1 needs to look at the 63.224.215.54 that you put in for your connection.

Once it knows that, then you should (ha, in theory), be able to open a terminal/konsole and just type ping www.yahoo.com (for example, though it may get a quicker response if you have an exact IP address to put in after ping), which, if it's got it's access should return the info about how long it took to get a response from the yahoo server - then you can kill it with ctrl Z

Quote:
bash-2.05b$ ping www.yahoo.com
PING www.yahoo.akadns.net (216.109.117.109) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from p24.www.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.117.109): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=133 ms
64 bytes from p24.www.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.117.109): icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=123 ms
64 bytes from p24.www.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.117.109): icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=124 ms
64 bytes from p24.www.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.117.109): icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=143 ms
64 bytes from p24.www.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.117.109): icmp_seq=5 ttl=56 time=123 ms

[1]+ Stopped ping www.yahoo.com
bash-2.05b$
is what that looks like.

regards

John
 
Old 04-06-2005, 07:21 PM   #8
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How do I do all these things your talking about in linux?
I mean step by step.
 
Old 04-08-2005, 03:13 PM   #9
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The first part is easy i.e. seeing if you've got the system looking at the router/router-modem if you open a terminal (or konsole, whatever you want to call it - usually a "TV" screen like icon on the taskbar at the bottom) and just type
Code:
ping 192.168.0.1
try that as user (you should have something that finishes with a $ sign which normally shows that youre in the user account) and if you get the reply of "command not found", then you'll have to try the root login, just keep the terminal open and type the letters su and hit enter, you should then be asked for your root password, which you put in and hit enter, if the pwd is correct the prompt will change from the $ sign to a # then do the ping 192.168.0.1 if you then get a reply similar to what I posted earlier (though it should, if it's working, indicate that the ping response is from the 192.168.0.1 from the modem/router device).


I'll have to think about how you need to make sure what the PC is set to for LAN connection (to be honest, I'm struggling to remember how I did it for my system - well not struggling, because it's in the gentoo handbook, I can also remember how I did it with Knoppix, but I'll be buggered if I can remember for Mandrake) because the methods of setting that up, while usually straight forward can vary from distro to distro - what are you using by the way?

Oh, and as long as you have dual boot facilities (or net access via another PC, then you can google for linux specific answers using http://www.google.com/linux

Sorry, I know that sounds like I'm being a "cop out", but really I'm not. That was my single biggest annoyance with linux, bloody documentation. If there is any, I had to spend hours reading shit off my monitor, making notes, bookmarking, printing page after page.

You may also find some assistance at the actual distro site. For example, this is usually, my first port of call, though you'd have to check for whichever distro you're using.

Hopefully, that's starting to point you in the right direction.

regards

John
 
Old 04-13-2005, 09:33 AM   #10
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When I tried the command as a user the consle
wrote
ping: sendto: Newtwork is unreachable
ping: wrote
192.168.0.1 64 chars, ret=-1
over and over again.
then it
wrote
--- 192.168.0.1 ping staistics ---
39 packets transmitted,
0 packets received, 100% packet loss

My distro is simplymepis
and im currently using a usb connection but i have the
choice of using ethernet. However, i do not currently have
an ethernet card but im thinking about getting one. Do you
think that getting an ethernet card would help me at all?
 
Old 04-14-2005, 02:13 AM   #11
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Sorry, I don't know that distro at all.

I used to have a USB modem, which was a bit of a bugger to configure. Once there it was OK, but as i said "a bugger to configure".

Hence, I now use ethernet. So all I have to do is put in my internal IP's and away it goes.

regards

John
 
Old 04-15-2005, 10:40 AM   #12
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wow

either you people are complete idiots or you enjoy anyone others by wasting their time with idiotic suggestions.
 
Old 05-03-2005, 06:04 PM   #13
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Re: wow

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