LinuxQuestions.org
Visit Jeremy's Blog.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 12-03-2016, 06:39 PM   #1
RenH
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Distribution: Ubuntu
Posts: 269

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Mint Mate hangs too easily


My Linux Mint Mate is not robust. If I drag a window across the screen the system can hang. I've done it with Firefox and LibreOffice Writer. In fact I just hung my system by hitting the delete key to delete something in a document. Add to this the fact that I still can't use VLC without danger of hanging the system. And yesterday I was using Thunderbird and halfway though the email I can't remember what I did, probably hit the delete key and the system hung.
When I boot from scratch it takes about a minute for the system to come up, which seems long. I don't have that much on my PC.
My question is am I experiencing something common in Mint Mate? I'm using Mint v.18.
I have been toying with switching to Xubuntu, which I have on my laptop and it works fine. But I do like the Mint features.
 
Old 12-03-2016, 06:54 PM   #2
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by RenH View Post
My Linux Mint Mate is not robust. If I drag a window across the screen the system can hang. I've done it with Firefox and LibreOffice Writer. In fact I just hung my system by hitting the delete key to delete something in a document. Add to this the fact that I still can't use VLC without danger of hanging the system. And yesterday I was using Thunderbird and halfway though the email I can't remember what I did, probably hit the delete key and the system hung.
When I boot from scratch it takes about a minute for the system to come up, which seems long. I don't have that much on my PC.
My question is am I experiencing something common in Mint Mate? I'm using Mint v.18.
I have been toying with switching to Xubuntu, which I have on my laptop and it works fine. But I do like the Mint features.
how old is your system, and how much RAM do you have?

I use VOID Linux and it is fast....

and you can install that desktop of mate and cinnamon on it too.

Last edited by BW-userx; 12-03-2016 at 06:57 PM.
 
Old 12-03-2016, 07:54 PM   #3
frankbell
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Ubuntu MATE, Mageia, and whatever VMs I happen to be playing with
Posts: 19,465
Blog Entries: 28

Rep: Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177Reputation: 6177
And what is the CPU?
 
Old 12-03-2016, 08:01 PM   #4
RenH
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Distribution: Ubuntu
Posts: 269

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: Disabled
BUILD DATE = 03/27/2014. Intel Processor Pentium CPU J2900@ 2.42GHz. Memory size 8192 MB ASUS
 
Old 12-03-2016, 08:06 PM   #5
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Intel® Pentium® Processor J2900
(2M Cache, up to 2.67 GHz)
Code:
# of Cores 	4
# of Threads 	4
Memory Types 	DDR3L 1333
Instruction Set 	64-bit
8GB RAM is plenty.
nope that ain't making no sense at all. nope. It wouldn't hurt to try a different distro.

you can wait and see what others say, but that is just plain strange behavior.

Last edited by BW-userx; 12-03-2016 at 08:08 PM.
 
Old 12-03-2016, 08:24 PM   #6
jpollard
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2012
Location: Washington DC area
Distribution: Fedora, CentOS, Slackware
Posts: 4,912

Rep: Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513Reputation: 1513
Have you checked the temperatures?

I saw something similar with a laptop that had a dead CPU fan. Worked just fine until the CPU locked up.
 
Old 12-03-2016, 10:00 PM   #7
rstuff
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2011
Posts: 151

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
System Monitor

Does system monitor,(menu, admin, system monitor), show anything taking a lot of CPU?
 
Old 12-04-2016, 01:47 PM   #8
RenH
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Distribution: Ubuntu
Posts: 269

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Everything is normal. I had done a temperature check before and everything is OK. Although I just turned on the PC, temperatures range from 24 - 32 and the last one at -128 [or is it 128]? I also did a hardware check and everything is fine. I had re-installed mate twice using a verified iso. I more or less resigned myself to the uncertainty of the system by constantly saving my work, although the other night I lost the email I was writing! My next step would be to change to Xubuntu because it is working well on my laptop, although it is a 32-bit version, but I do like Mint. I am hoping to find out if others experience what I do.
 
Old 12-04-2016, 01:53 PM   #9
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by RenH View Post
Everything is normal. I had done a temperature check before and everything is OK. Although I just turned on the PC, temperatures range from 24 - 32 and the last one at -128 [or is it 128]? I also did a hardware check and everything is fine. I had re-installed mate twice using a verified iso. I more or less resigned myself to the uncertainty of the system by constantly saving my work, although the other night I lost the email I was writing! My next step would be to change to Xubuntu because it is working well on my laptop, although it is a 32-bit version, but I do like Mint. I am hoping to find out if others experience what I do.
if you have re-installed Mink twice then what is stopping you from installing something completely different, just to get a comparison to find out if it is MATE or the pc?
 
Old 12-04-2016, 02:07 PM   #10
RenH
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Distribution: Ubuntu
Posts: 269

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Installations never go easily for me -- I end up wiping my files off and then have to rebuild. I know it's possible to preserve the files but somehow I have never learnt how to and end up hitting the wrong button! perhaps over Christmas I'll do it.
 
Old 12-04-2016, 02:12 PM   #11
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by RenH View Post
Installations never go easily for me -- I end up wiping my files off and then have to rebuild. I know it's possible to preserve the files but somehow I have never learnt how to and end up hitting the wrong button! perhaps over Christmas I'll do it.
best way to play.

split your system. two separate partitions and one for swap if you use it. making a possible 3 partitions total.

Code:
/
/home
that way you can play with different distros all you want to. Just while installing, use the same /home for a mount point to /home, and MAKE DAMN sure that the install program is not checked for formatting it. then do the rest as normal install.

then when you need to create your user, just use the same user name, the system will see it is already there, then register it into the system. give it a password and you're back in easy peasy without loss to your personal data in your user account.

BUT, on your first install in a system like this have it format /home then never again.

Last edited by BW-userx; 12-04-2016 at 02:14 PM.
 
Old 12-04-2016, 02:18 PM   #12
hydrurga
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Pictland
Distribution: Linux Mint 21 MATE
Posts: 8,048
Blog Entries: 5

Rep: Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925
Just a quick note that my Mint 18 MATE system works fine, so there well may be some hardware issue at play on yours.

Are you able to use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to a virtual console when the system hangs?
 
Old 12-05-2016, 02:44 PM   #13
RenH
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Distribution: Ubuntu
Posts: 269

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Hi BW-userx --I'm a very dumb user -- just want a system to work. To do what you wrote sounds easy, but for me I am sure I'll screw up!
hyddrunga -- I had done a check on my hardware and it was fine. Thanks for the advice re Ctrl-Alt-F1. Will try it the next time my system hangs.
don't know why I am hanging on to the Windows recovery partition. Would like to remove all trace of Windows! Who knows it might be affecting my system. Wouldn't put it pass them.
 
Old 12-05-2016, 03:13 PM   #14
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by RenH View Post
Hi BW-userx --I'm a very dumb user -- just want a system to work. To do what you wrote sounds easy, but for me I am sure I'll screw up!
hyddrunga -- I had done a check on my hardware and it was fine. Thanks for the advice re Ctrl-Alt-F1. Will try it the next time my system hangs.
don't know why I am hanging on to the Windows recovery partition. Would like to remove all trace of Windows! Who knows it might be affecting my system. Wouldn't put it pass them.
Stop already.. practice makes perfect. and please stop lowering your self esteem by calling yourself dumb. You got it installed once, so you can do it again. Just take your time, and change your attitude about it. If I could count the times I had to post a help me every time I screwed something up in Linux I'd need a few more hands.
 
Old 12-05-2016, 03:20 PM   #15
ceantuco
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Location: New York
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 809

Rep: Reputation: 88
Renh: I had a similar problem with installing Ubuntu Gnome3 on a Dell Inspiron i3 8GB laptop; I even upgraded the drive to SSD thinking it would solve the issue but it did not. I installed a different Distro and issue stopped. Try Fedora or Xubuntu.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
High CPU by Xorg on Linux Mint Mate and Ubuntu + Mate ronaldv Linux - Desktop 7 04-11-2017 07:27 AM
Menu/Application Launcher from Linux Mint Mate on Debian Mate? erik2282 Linux - Desktop 5 08-19-2016 03:37 PM
LXer: Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” MATE RC Is Out and Based on MATE 1.10 LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 06-17-2015 11:32 PM
[SOLVED] Mate switched to cinnamon wthout permission mint-13-mate littlejoe5 Linux Mint 7 05-08-2014 10:54 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration