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Old 07-08-2006, 04:52 AM   #1
siiker
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Mandrake-KDE config: "A newb in the woods..."


Hello,
I'm somewhat of a newbie, running Mandrake 10.1 with the KDE desktop, and have some config issues I'd like to work out. My computer generally does what I need it to do, but there are a couple of KDE-, or perhaps "X"- or "xine"-related 'kinks' in the system that I've been trying to track down ( - the latter two are actually just a guess, based on my understanding that X and/or xine are Linux elements that deal with my graphic environment). One file I've looked at, that I assume contains relevant information, is a text file called ".xsession-errors" and, indeed, there's a line in it that says "your system is severely misconfigured!". One of the 'kinks' I'm referring to is something that didn't used to happen, but I'm currently unable to correct: When I open a system search tool called KFind, its window is somewhat wider than my screen and doesn't allow itself to be resized horizontally. When this first happened ( - and I have no idea why, 'cause I didn't mess with anything), the window was something like 5 times the width of my screen - its left side was where it was supposed to be, but on the right it ran off into "hypothetical cyberspace", so to speak. Once I scooted it over enough to see the other side, I was able to resize it somewhat - but only to a point, and it still runs off the screen a bit. I assume that my KDE system browser - "Konqueror" - also uses KFind, because a similar thing happens when I use its search function: The otherwise well-behaved Konqueror window becomes oversized, running off the screen on the right and adamantly refusing to entertain the possibility of being horizontally resized beyond a certain point. I've gingerly poked around in my system, hoping to find a config file with something like:

KFind windowsize = "aaahahahahahaaa - HAVE FUN, Windows MORON!!!"

- but no dice. Seriously, though - I assume a setting has been changed somewhere, but the Amazonian jungle of various config files in this system is quite daunting to me. Any pointers as to what I should check out would be greatly appreciated.

I also have a couple of Newbian questions concerning the above-mentioned "xsession-errors" file. There's a whole bunch of stuff in it, but I'll limit myself to the first message for today...
It opens with:

"xset: bad font path element (#142), possible causes are:
Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions
Directory missing fonts.dir
Incorrect font server address or syntax" ( - this precedes "kdestartup", if that's of any relevance)

- I've encountered the term "x fonts", which I assume this message refers to; are these simply a type of "fonts" (or "fonts set"), as in "some form of human-readable letters"? or...
- seeing as the ominously-named "X" handles my graphic environment (I assume), might these "x fonts" be some subtler form of 'resource' - perhaps even something that would influence KDE's behaviour?

Please excuse the longish post and, again, thanks for any help - or direction to a relevant forum or tutorial, which I've been unable to find here as yet (or maybe I did, but didn't understand what I was reading...).

siiker
 
Old 07-08-2006, 09:10 AM   #2
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Hi

In the KDE Control Center there are options for increasing your desktop resolution which I believe will correct your off-the-screen windows problem. Fonts are also configurable there.

X refers to your graphich desktop server. Its configuration files are located in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (or Xfree86.conf, not sure which X serve Mandriva uses for the version you have.) Check that you have the display driver "Vesa". This is the generic driver that will work with most video cards for just, well, generic displays (no DRI or 3D, you will need your card's specific driver for that.)

Xine refers to one of the more popular video players in Linux. It is found in Multimedia from you start menu. It is not directly related to your X server.

Hope this helps

Bob
 
Old 07-08-2006, 11:49 AM   #3
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Thanks

Thank you! I'll give the screen res modification a try, although it seems strange to me that the window-sizing problem only occurs when KFind is employed - everything else works fine in that respect. Thanks for the info about the location of those config files too. Obvious as it may be from my questions that I have no business messing with them at this point, at least I'll know where to go once I get my head around these things a bit better...
 
Old 07-08-2006, 02:11 PM   #4
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I don't really ever use KFind, but there my be some configuration available for that as well (from the GUI under edit>preferences or something similar). As someone new to Linux, a lot of what you read or experience will be very foreign to you. The good news is that most of Linux's configuration files are in plain text so they are readable and understandable. There is nothing hidden in Linux as there is in Windows.

There is an enormous amount of help available here and on the web. There are a number of tutorials on this forum and a good tutorial or a new user is rute (just google the word, it's easy to find)

Good luck, post again if more help is needed.

Bob
 
Old 07-09-2006, 01:57 PM   #5
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The wierdness continues...

Well, like they say - "RT(f)M!"...
After digging up the docs to my monitor, I found that the recommended screen resolution was 1280x1024 - I'd been running my system at 1024x768. After changing it in the Control Center, the "stand-alone" version of KFind began coming up like it was supposed to, allowed itself to be resized in all ways, etc. However, when I click "Find file" in Konqueror's "Tools" drop-down menu, the same thing as before continues to happen: the window runs way off the screen on the right side ( - I'm talking at least another screen-width) and seems to be un-resizeable horizontally, be it by mouse or by keyboard. It would seem to me that there's a settings conflict somewhere, but I'll be darned if I can find it... Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

siiker

I've tried the Mandriva help site in hopes of finding a way to ask someone who really knows this OS inside out, directly, about my specific problem, but they seem more into subscribing ex-Win users to their adverti- oops - I mean "newsletters", etc. I felt like I was in downtown Redmond...
 
Old 07-09-2006, 02:09 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by siiker
Well, like they say - "RT(f)M!"...
After digging up the docs to my monitor, I found that the recommended screen resolution was 1280x1024 - I'd been running my system at 1024x768. After changing it in the Control Center, the "stand-alone" version of KFind began coming up like it was supposed to, allowed itself to be resized in all ways, etc. However, when I click "Find file" in Konqueror's "Tools" drop-down menu, the same thing as before continues to happen: the window runs way off the screen on the right side ( - I'm talking at least another screen-width) and seems to be un-resizeable horizontally, be it by mouse or by keyboard. It would seem to me that there's a settings conflict somewhere, but I'll be darned if I can find it... Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

siiker

I've tried the Mandriva help site in hopes of finding a way to ask someone who really knows this OS inside out, directly, about my specific problem, but they seem more into subscribing ex-Win users to their adverti- oops - I mean "newsletters", etc. I felt like I was in downtown Redmond...
To start with, I always found this site most helpful when I was running Mandriva.

Also, it may be something to do with what you actually selected during install. Because I don't recall what the setting was but if I selected the wrong thing at install, I often ended up with "virtual" desktop space. It's easy to tell, you should be able to run your mouse/cursor right off the edge of the screen so that the cursor disappears, but seems to keep on going out of sight.

Personally, if it might be hardware/config related, I would suggest that you obtain the latest incarnation of Mandriva i.e. 2006, because it may have several fixes for problems that might occur with your hardware. Or if you want to be a little more "cutting edge" then get one of the "buntu's". If you've played with Mandriva but are more familiar with windows, then Kubuntu might be the way ahead - as it's debian based, upgrades etc, not to mention installs of additional software are more straight forward.

As with "anything linux", the choice is yours!

regards

John

p.s. Oh and if the screen/monitor/resolution snag does seem to be "virtually" related, theres a setting in the xorg.conf that needs commenting out (put a # infront of it).
 
  


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