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Old 03-16-2004, 03:00 PM   #1
gavinbeatty
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Mandrake 10.0 internet foible


Just intsalled a fresh 10.0 and (as in 9.2 which I'm in now) and my internet connection (Ambit USB cable modem and I ain't buying no Ethernet card) and now my previous fix won't work.

I'm still a newbie really so I didn't make this method but I used to do:

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rmmod acm
modprobe CDCEther
ifconfig -a

dhcpcd
ifconfig

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to get a new IP adress but 10.0 doesn't support any of the "rmmod acm" stuff.

I originally got this off a real Slackware newbie but it seems now I need a real Mdk10.0 afficionado.


Any ideas lads?
 
Old 03-16-2004, 03:06 PM   #2
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rmmod not in Mandrake? Are you doing this as root?
 
Old 03-17-2004, 08:44 AM   #3
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Oh, I'm in root all right.

The "rmmod" works fine but there is no "acm" in /proc/modules and I'll be damned if I know what the hell that is or any of it's equivalents.

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UPDATE!
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The prob has been solved the gui mandrake way!

There was a single driver in the net config list for cable modems and it just so happens to work this time around after its failure in Mandrake9.2.

Thanks to Daveybops the newbie in the Networking section for the inspiration to try that mother of a list again.
 
Old 03-17-2004, 04:06 PM   #4
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God Dangit! SPOKE TOO SOON!!

For the connection to work I need to do the mandrake gui config every time I boot and that just ain't gonna cut it!

I hope too many of my future saviours haven't checked this thread off their to do list 'cos I'm still down the proverbial creek without a paddle.

Once again this:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...threadid=77412

doesn't help with the new Mandrake 10.0 situation. rc.local is a completely different story to the 9.2 version and as I said, "rmmod acm" and all that follows doesn't work for even a temporary solution.
 
Old 03-17-2004, 08:51 PM   #5
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umm since you have mankrake 10.0. go in the control center, choose network and internet. then make a new connection, set everything up and make sure to select the option "start at boot". this way things will work everytime you boot up!
 
Old 03-18-2004, 04:56 PM   #6
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Wish it were so but that just isn't the case.
Mandrake's just been double-crossing me, impressing me with flowers and fancy interface but trust me, that network is set to start at every boot just the way I told it to.
 
Old 04-05-2004, 12:27 AM   #7
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For the connection to work I need to do the mandrake gui config every
time I boot and that just ain't gonna cut it!
Hi, how in the world do you get a usb modem to work with 10.0 EVEN ONCE ???

Sorry to shout, I have been reading about ways to make a Motorola SurfBoard 4200 cable modem (usb, like you I can't do the ethernet port route!) work with Mandrake.

I couldn't get my winmodem to work with the 8.1 powerpack I bought when it first came out (actually I must have pre-ordered, it took a couple of months to get here).

I couldn't get my cable modem to work with 9.2. Whole series of things I tried culminated in being able to load anywhere from (none at all) to one web page before my entire system locked up so completely that even the emergency alt-sysrq sequences didn't do a thing. Requiring a reset, which required a reinstallation.

Now 10.0 is out, can't get it to work with my cable modem either. It looks like they've done a lot to the distro, I don't guess they've become interested in expanding their cable modem support.

But what I really want to know is how on earth you can do anything involvoing CDCEther? I can't even pick it from the list in the gui config... I do and then hit next, get a small box with some text in it flash very quickly (way too fast to read a single word) and then it goes back to the big list of drivers.

I can't find CDCEther with lsmod or even modprobe it (both done as root, btw).

I have only the three-cd download edition of 10.0, perhaps it is on that fourth disk that you have to be a clubber to get?

Oh to be wealthy!

Anyway, how on earth...?

Thanks in advance,
 
Old 04-05-2004, 08:58 AM   #8
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Never fear for help is at hand.

This method DEFINITELY works for Ambit USB Cable modems, not sure about yours but you can give it a shot anyway.

In Mandrake 10.0CE,

I assume you know how to go to the gui cable modem connection config because you were talking about choosing CDCEther earlier.
Well, all you have to do (for ambit's at least) is scroll down near the end of the list and choose "usbnet" instead of CDCEther.

a) IF this works it should work straight away. Try rebooting and see does your connection still work. If it does then it's a waste of time to even read on because you are now a free man!
But if not then there is a simple remedy but it does involve some Command Line Interface stuff but I'll guide you young padawan.

- Open the Konsole and become root (ie type "su" without the quotation marks and hit enter)
- Next type "vi /etc/rc.d/rc.local" and hit enter
- press "i" to enter input mode and, using the arrow keys scroll to very end of document and add the lines: "echo Connecting to internet" hit enter
"/sbin/modprobe usbnet" enter
"/sbin/dhcpcd" enter
"echo Done" enter
- hit the colon, ":", key (using shift or whatever your crazy American keyboard needs) and type "wq" and enter

This should solve your problem permanently.
NB - If you are using Mandrake 9.0, 9.1 ,9.2 the same command line method will work except you do "/sbin/modprobe CDCEther" instead of "/sbin/modprobe usbnet".

If this has been any help to you then search out samwblack at geocities and thank him 'till you can't thank no more. Not sure if I'm allowed link him but it is your civic duty to seek him out. He's also a member here if that's any help to you.

b) If not then I either re-hashed what somebody else told me incorrectly or your Motorola just needs something else.
 
Old 04-05-2004, 09:31 PM   #9
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Hey thanks I tried that picked usbnet and it asked me a bunch of questions I think three of them were different ways of asking me to name my computer but i didn't understand it said make it like "firstpart.2ndpard.thirdpart.fourthpart" I dunno so I hit enter. Maybe some other questions like that (that I don't know answers to) said something about restarting I told it yes got hard lockup. Reset of course half my system looked hosed couldn't run anything so I reinstalled this time I told it no, logged off picked reboot my own self and thought happy I can maybe get online. Went to log on and it hard lockuped when I was typing my password. Reset again everything is hosed can't run anything or anything, have to reinstall I think it will be thirty-five times in last three days but it won't be tonight my head hurts so bad this is a bad time for cluster migrane attack but never seems to happen at a good time.

Anyway I reinstalled and did your konsole/su/vi edit the file thing added the lines and typed :wq and it just added it as another line. Tried every option couldn't find them just konsole help, end session and whatever so I closed the window then tried again and it said edited file already yes/no/recover I hit recover and THERE IT WAS! so I hit :wq as I wasn't in insert mode then and it saved it, rebooted and it locked up when I tried to type my password. THAT is where I am at now, I should say. That should have been inserted above the headache part it hurts so bad I can't think I haven't felt this bad since my (then)wife called me and told me that she decided she was divorcing me. I am going lie down for while.
 
Old 04-06-2004, 04:57 AM   #10
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OOOOOOOHHHHHHH! REALLY SORRY!

This is a simple problem.
After adding the text I told you about you have to hit ESCAPE first to exit input mode, THEN do :wq and hit enter making sure you removed the text of :wq.
Sorry about that but it's hard to imagine what to do when I'm not actually doing it myself at that moment too.
Just be glad I did better than describing how to play a song on the guitar to my friends when I don't have the thing right in front of me. Now they play The Pixies in some weird, evil Eric Clapton kind of way.

I'm not too sure from your post whether you have saved the new changes so I don't know if this method has worked or will work for you.

Don't worry about that gui stuff either. I don't really have a clue about that kind of stuff. I was just lucky I had my IP address handy and named everything else the same as my computer but to be honest, that command line way is actually far easier.

On a side note, there are plenty of good tutorials and how tos on vi editing which give the essentials (which is all you'll ever need and all I know) such as adding/removing text and saving or discarding your changes upon exit.
The :wq saves and exits the file with the w doing the saving and the q doing the exiting.
To exit without saving your changes do ":q!".

Once again, sorry about that but I think my last piece of advice should be to get to the bottom of your 30 or so installs because my spidey-senses tell me there's more to it than a cable modem problem.
But hey, at least

Last edited by gavinbeatty; 04-06-2004 at 05:21 AM.
 
Old 04-06-2004, 12:27 PM   #11
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Exclamation Thanks For Trying <sincere>

Hello,

Well methinks even your spidie senses will be challanged by this ! Or worse, by this computer...

At least my headache is just a normal thump THUMP THUMP today which is so much better than the last few days it is wonderful all by itself!

"Jack, he is cured! Will he be able to think clearly now?"
"Well, we're not really sure that he could think clearly before, you know."

Anyway, I am assuming at this point that I tried hitting <esc> to get back to the command entering part of vi but I really can't remember.

It is hard to tell. As I mentioned I was able to save it in a really twisted way. Since I didn't manage to eat yesterday I guess I was lucky to figure anything out. I had (& still do) fully intended to check out all the manuals and helpfiles that come with or can be accessed through Mandrake once I get it up and running. I still feel that it is a pretty good distro for those who have gone the Windows 3.1/98SE/XPHome route and are used to them and the "eye candy" and desktop.

I am just startled to realize that (for me anyway) linux is now crashing where windows is stable.

Someone who had a couple of suggestions finally suggested that I try Slackware b/c he uses it and can better talk me through things, but since usbnet and CDCEther are somewhat generic open source things I am sure I will have trouble with any distro until I get to the root of the problem.

Something new I just noticed. How I was thinking that when Mandrake is active and my modem is not in standby mode I got hard (unrecoverable) lockups? Well that appears to apply to actually installing it as well, because I have been trying (only three times so far today) to install it and it keeps locking up during the install! Once somewhere on cd#2 and twice on cd#1! It was only after giving up and resetting that I happened to glance over and realize that I had failed to hit the standby button on top of the modem - so this is only tentative so far. I will try to reinstall later with the modem actually in standby mode.

Some good news: I have been getting hit by a couple of ip's while surfing in XP. Of course protowall has stopped them (at the driver level, I really like this program) because the ips are in one of the blocklists, but someone said maybe it is one of my isp's dns or something and reminded me that I could go to a shell and type ipconfig/all and get some info. Didn't help that problem but now I have some info like my default gateway and other info so I can try typing stuff into the questions Mandrake asks me when I try to do it all again.

<PSHEW!> This stuff is a lot harder than I ever dreamed. I actually still want to recompile(?) my kernel (someday) to take advantage of the fact that it is an XP2200+ with nForce2, the dual channel memory board, etc. since I am told that the default is the generic one that works with the most computers but has a lot of features turned off...

But I am beginning to wonder if that would ever be a good idea.

XP2200+
Abit NF7 mobo with recent bios & drivers (nForce2 or ultra(?)) w. nForce audio (audio works great with KDE out of the box )
512meg DDR400 ram
nVidia FX5200 128meg
Some kind of 80 gig hard drive
M$ USB Intellimouse Optical and p/s2 Internet keyboard
Motorola SurfBoard 4200 cable modem via usb (works in WinXP)

Not bragging (not much to brag about these days) but I thought maybe someone would look at my specs, slap their forehead and shout, "That's it, with that system you just need to..." or something.

Thanks everyone for still trying to help me,
wes_catfish
 
Old 04-07-2004, 08:27 AM   #12
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Well my spidey senses now tell me you know a hell of a lot more about computers in general than I do so all I can do is reinforce my one and only nugget of wisdom and tell you to make sure you have those lines added in rc.local but it sounds like your modem needs some more special treatment.
You could also try the mandrake site and see what kind of support they have for your modem. It's almost definitely not FULLY supported but I'm sure you'll either find out it's out of the question or there is dodgy compatibility.

And PLEASE, treat your computer right because one day you'll end up with a system as slow relative to the competition as one with all your specs halved... like me...(sniff)... and be living with your Mom.


But hell, I don't really care since I'm still only going to what youi puny Americans would call
"H I G H S C H O O L"!

Farewell wes_catfish, you have outgrown my assistance but I have one final request here on my deathbed as LinuxQuestions spirit guide (cough), Slackware is not for 100% n00bs so don't expect any hand holding from your system or from the forums. It's better than EVERY other distro (I'm reliably told) but that's only because you CAN do everything, that doesn't mean it's going to be easy though.
 
  


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