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Old 04-30-2004, 05:14 AM   #1
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Unhappy Major problems installing RedHat


I'm sure things shouldn't be this difficult...

I've finally had enough of Windoze, and decided to go to linux. I have an i686 running XP Home with two disks - one 40Gb with nothing valuable on it and one 80Gb with a very corrupt XP install and a lot of valuable data. Can't backup the valuable data as XP crashes too quickly :-(

First off I installed RedHat 7.3 on the 40Gb drive. Why 7.3? Because I had a RedHat 7.3 book (RedHat 7.3 Bible by Christopher Negus, from memory) with the CDs in it lying around from my last attempt at installing Linux a couple of years back.

It installed fine, but I had loads of little problems - eventually I managed to get my broadband connection working (ker-ching: 100k on a new ADSL + wireless router after I find that RedHat doesn't support the BT Voyager 100 modem, which is the standard modem issued by UK's largest broadband supplier!) I get all the other problems (e.g. lack of NTFS support) sorted by a bit of googling and a few appropriate rpms. I'm now happy - it's all working fine.

By now I have a dual-boot machine: RH7.3 on one disk, XP on the other. Then I find out RH7.3 is now obsolete (what can I say, I've been asleep for the last couple of years) and decide to upgrade to v9.0.

Following a couple of methods posted online I point apt-get at the RH9.0 repositories, get it going and go off to have supper. That's where it all starts to go horribly wrong.

By the time I've finished supper, RH appears to have rebooted - which I wasn't expecting. It also tells me that the graphical greeter is corrupt and can't load the username & password module, so I can't log in. Reformat, re-install 7.3, re-install apt-get, try again just in case and get exactly the same problem.

At work the following day I find that RH9.0 is also now unsupported, so buy a new version of the RedHat bible with Fedora on CD (ker-ching: 35 for the book. I thought Linux was supposed to be free?). I don't have much choice - my only net-connected PC is dead so I can't download iso images.

Get home, boot from the Fedora CD and... nothing. It gets to the "loading \sbin\loader" line and just hangs. It's not just being slow - I tried leaving it for 20 mins - it really has hung. Try it again just in case. Hangs at the same place. Try installing in text in case it's a monitor/graphics problem - same thing. Try running a media check on the disks - apparently they're fine. Swear at the book's publishers a few times. Re-install 7.3 from earlier disks.

At this point I notice that GRUB is only giving me one option: RedHat. What happened to my XP install? It may have crashed regularly but at least it gave me a few minutes' grace to google for help...

Re-install apt-get. Point apt-get at the Fedora repositories, fire it off, go have supper. Come back and apt-get has finished running but with many errors. Try it again as recommended by one of the upgrade methods and it gets half way then hangs. A real, windows-style hang: it no longer accepts any input from mouse or keyboard. Dead meat.

What do I do now? My only net connection is at work with no admin privileges and no CD-writer. My home PC doesn't want to talk to me anymore - well, would you after that treatment? I'm now wary of upgrading using apt-get after three failed attempts on the trot. I'm wary of the RedHat Bible Fedora book after the disks failed to even boot - and besides, the whole book seems riddled with minor errors, which hardly inspires confidence.

Can anyone suggest a better way of doing things? I'm stuck!

Cheers,
Geoff
 
Old 04-30-2004, 05:23 AM   #2
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just use REDHAT 9

ive too tried the fedora and i had many installation problems which finally i decieded to hang with REDHAT9 until fedora became better equipped and if it doesnt by then i will find another distro
like GENTO....

just use the REDHAT 9
or manuelly update to redhat 9 from your version 7

fedora in my opinion wasted alot of my time !
im not sure why it wouldn't load onto 6 different machine and 25 different burned iso images!
 
Old 04-30-2004, 06:51 AM   #3
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If you try to upgrade a FULL installation (all the graphics like xserver KDE/gnome) and then upgrade the whole distribution you are going to run in alot of troubles.

What you could do is a 'minimal' install, as little as posible, then upgrade the distro with apt-get. Once you are upgraded, install the xfree86.
 
Old 04-30-2004, 07:01 AM   #4
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i did a full installation 4 times already, but i have a blank screen afterwards, it won't continue to load, so just had a minimal installation with the packages i like. so far, my major problem is updating my nvidia driver!
 
Old 04-30-2004, 07:45 AM   #5
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Thanks for the comment about upgrading a minimal install - that does make sense.

I've just found a Linux mag in my local newsagent with Mandrake 10 CDs on it (ker-ching: 5.99!) so I'll see how I get on with that; if not I'll do a minimal reinstall 7.3 and see if I have better luck with apt-get this time.

The guy in the bookshop was somewhat bemused when I returned the RedHat Linux Bible with the comment "I'm sorry but it won't boot up", but I did get my money back!

So much for choosing the distribution that's right for you - for me it seems to be a case of choosing any distribution that I can find that works
 
Old 04-30-2004, 08:18 AM   #6
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I have not tried Mandrake as of yet, but i have readed is a nice install experience.

About nVidia, man... dont sweat it !!!!!!!!
Just configure your card with teh 'vesa' drivers !!!

You can fight with the nvidia latter on.
 
Old 04-30-2004, 01:34 PM   #7
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I would want to know why the XP partition is corrupt.

All signs point to a bus problem since /sbin/loader crashed. I had the same problem with a system of mine. Check memory or cpu/mobo temp

Last edited by dfctve_end_user; 04-30-2004 at 01:36 PM.
 
Old 04-30-2004, 01:39 PM   #8
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yea it doesnt seem like you could be having this much trouble with this many distros ?
 
Old 05-02-2004, 10:59 AM   #9
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i won't install the driver anymore... i'll let it be..
 
  


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