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Old 02-09-2004, 05:12 AM   #1
CypherNix
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Linux on an old machine


I've been thinking bout trying out a Linux distro for a few weeks now, started reading up and since I am a complete Linux n00b I thought I壇 give Mandrake (Red Hat and SUSE were my 2nd and 3rd choices) a try as it seems to be quite user friendly. I haven't tried any other OS's in my life other then M$ ones (I know, I know ). I thought bout dual-booting, cause I want to retain my WinXP SP1 for some time, but I have no HDD space on that machine. Unexpectedly some1 promised me a machine that i could try out Linux on, but as it turns out the "machine" is a PII 200Mhz, 96MB RAM, 8GB HDD with a Trio64V2 2MB graphics card oldie, running Win2k Pro withouth much lag I might add. Obviously Mandrake won't be able to run on that esp. if I go with KDE. Is there a Linux distro that would run on such an old machine and is user friendly...I want to use it mainly to get acquainted with Linux and will be used as a desktop machine not as a server, router, firewall...oh if some1 comes up with an idea for what else it could be used for pls let me know.
If that's not possible I値l just have to get myself another HDD for my main machine .

BTW i did search for similar posts and came up with two similar ones (didn't know if i could post them if i removed [ url ] since I'm below 5 posts) but in both instances the machines r older then mine and there's no mention of how user friendly those recommended distros r.

Thx in advance 2 any1 who could point me in the right direction.
 
Old 02-09-2004, 06:20 AM   #2
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Why can't you run Mandrake on that machine? I am runing Slackware 9.0 on 200mhz 80 MB 2GB with no problems and using KDE. Slackware is said not to be that user friendly but it is my first distro and with help from these forums when I got stuck I have made it fine.
 
Old 02-09-2004, 06:27 AM   #3
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I agree with DMRansom. Your setup really isn't all that bad, and it won't present any special problems. In my experience, you are likely to get better performance and responsiveness than you've been getting out of WinXP. But I don't use KDE so I can't comment on that.

My first Linux installatio was an old Slackware on a 486/100 with 8mb of RAM and about 135 MB of hard disk space for all the apps and stuff to reside in. By the standards of the day, it was fine, and it was more responsive than with win95.
 
Old 02-09-2004, 06:31 AM   #4
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Hey, I'm in the same boat just a few weeks downstream. p233, 96 meg machine. Mandrake will do fine for you, although if you're inclined to spend time learning you might consider a distro that has less gui config tools. You'll eventually have to learn how to edit config files manually and at this point, I think the gui tools are more in my way than helping me.
I'm using mandrake 9.2 with icewm and firebird, there's several lightweight file managers out there you can use, I'm using xftree.
For sure avoid nautilus, mozilla, galeon, kde and gnome wm's. you may have to load some kde parts to support the software you do use, but you can let the installer figure most of that out for you. If you go with mandrake 9.2, make sure you get a release more recent than november (search on menu bug and you'll find discussion leading to when they came out with the fixed version)
At this point, I'm going to try slackware and see how it goes.
good leck,
-Joel
 
Old 02-09-2004, 06:51 AM   #5
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Thanx for the replies ppl, as I have no experience with it i rather ask then find out l8r it was all for nothing, i looked at the recommended hardware for Mandrake Linux 9.2 and the speed of the CPU isn't mentioned there, also my gf card (not the brand itself just the model) isn't listed in their hardware database.

Processor: an x586-class or above processor is required. This includes Intel Pentium I/II/III/IV, AMD K6/II/III, AMD Duron, AMD Athlon/XP/MP. SMP multi-processor machines are supported.
Memory: at least 64 MB is required (32 MB for text-install); 128 MB is recommended.
Hard disks: IDE and SCSI hard disks are supported. RAID/SCI and SCSI controllers are supported.
Hard disk size: At least 100MB is required, 1GB is recommended.
USB and USB 2.0: most USB devices are supported (including USB keys).
CD-ROM and DVD-ROM drives and burners: Most IDE, SCSI, PCMCIA, IEEE 1394/FireWire models are supported (this includes DVD+RW and DVD-RW).
Graphic cards: Most ISA, PCI and AGP cards are supported, including VESA, NVidia, ATI, 3DFX, SIS, S3, Matrox (dual-head support for G450), Intel i865G, i8XX, i845G, Trident. 3D acceleration is available for Matrox G200/G400/G500, Voodoo III/V/Banshee, Intel i8XX, ATI Rage 128/Pro & Radeon, Nvidia (GeForce and Nforce).

I know mdk would run better then WinXP on any box but it would be close to impossible to use WinXP on that particular machine. As for the desktop environment I thought that KDE might be a problem since it seems to be quite tough on system resources...well if I do decide to go ahead with the install (and your replies pointed me back to that goal) I値l just have to use another desktop environment/window manager. If any1 has any recommendations (and I know/read that it's hard to choose since every1 has their own preferences) as to what to use (on top of what has already been suggested) I壇 really appreciate it.

As far as GUI being more in the way no worries there I need one...badly.
I grabbed the 3CD's a few days ago...so they should be the latest, with the bug fixes.
 
Old 02-09-2004, 10:20 AM   #6
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joeln recommended icewm I have heard it was real good. I have not tried it. Blackbox and Fluxbox are supposed to be good. I like blackbox. Fluxbox is supposed to be good haven't tried it yet either. The best thing for you to do would be to use one of those for a while and then after a while if your not quit sure you like something try another or try to see if you like one better than another. That is one of the great things about Linux is there is more than one way to do everything and you can pick the best for you.


http://www.icewm.org/
http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/
http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/
 
Old 02-09-2004, 10:50 AM   #7
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DMRansom thx will read up on those 3 and decide, I知 also having a real close look at XFce, lots of ppl seem to like it. The thing that's bugging me atm is that I think Mandrake only comes with KDE and Gnome, so looks like I値l have to choose one of those two during setup (or can that be avoided) and once setup is complete go with whichever wm I chose. After setup is complete and I install the wm I chose (if I値l be able to of course keep reading urpmi is supposed to make it easy...well I値l read up on installing .rpm's once I get it all running) can the other wm I picked during setup (KDE or Gnome) be "uninstalled".

Just finished formatting my 6gb drive to fat32 and will format my system hdd which is 2gb to Reiser once I start installing mdk.
 
Old 02-09-2004, 11:02 AM   #8
joeln
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mandrake 9.2 for sure comes with xfce, icewm and blackbox not sure about fluxbox.
- Joel
 
Old 02-09-2004, 11:04 AM   #9
CypherNix
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mandrake 9.2 for sure comes with xfce, icewm and blackbox not sure about fluxbox.
- Joel
Great u sure helped me out will be installing quite soon it seems.
 
  


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