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Old 05-07-2014, 06:14 PM   #16
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The installs that you see in post #10 are just a file in windows.
If you can't get a cd to boot you can put hdd in external enclosure & install operating system, then put drive back.
 
Old 05-07-2014, 06:24 PM   #17
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Hello jamison,

Thanks for the info, doesn't sound too bad. I'll try using a .exe solution soon.
 
Old 05-07-2014, 06:27 PM   #18
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Hello EDDY1,

My 2.5" enclosure is not available at this time, probably not until the weekend, but I thought of just doing that earlier, I was just hoping there was a simpler way to accomplish this.

And on the installs, Mint 16 32-bit has loaded successfully to desktop on the other laptop, so I'll try the other discs but at least that one is OK on newer hardware.
 
Old 05-07-2014, 06:30 PM   #19
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Question Oh, and one more thing

The hard drive space numbers on the zt1185 aren't adding up, so I'm thinking there is an HPA of about 5GB hidden on the drive. DBAN says it won't access or erase an HPA, so is there a free program that will do so?
 
Old 05-07-2014, 06:35 PM   #20
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The mint cd will erase everything for you.
 
Old 05-07-2014, 06:40 PM   #21
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Really, I thought HPAs by definition were invisible to operating systems/installers?
 
Old 05-07-2014, 06:55 PM   #22
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Really, I thought HPAs by definition were invisible to operating systems/installers?
Only to the windows system.
 
Old 05-07-2014, 07:06 PM   #23
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Also in windows you can use the command prompt to unhide hidden patition.

If you're really serious about installing linux then you can do a frugal install of whatever distro you want using unetbootin.
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/une...i/installmodes
 
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Wow, I am the nooblet.

Thanks all.
 
Old 05-07-2014, 07:16 PM   #25
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It's not as difficult as it seems.
 
Old 05-07-2014, 07:31 PM   #26
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Ahhh, I'm not worried about eventually getting it to work, just frustrated because of the extra element of difficulty due to the age of the hardware.

I appreciate the help all, and I'll let you know when I get the laptop up and running.
 
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Nice!!!

Hello all,

I want to thank you again for all the info and helpful suggestions. Started back in this morning and WaryPuppy 5.5 booted right up and installed no problem... Sort of.

It's asking me to find the menu.lst file which should be in /boot, but is not. Should I create the file inside the directory that's supposed to contain it with the text I'm supposed to save? Created and saved the little text file in /boot, now running into issue described below.

Still a question; although I saved the file where and under the name it's supposed to be, the system won't boot from the hard drive...

No real rush, the drive has been reformatted and it's all over but the minor details at this point...

Or not. Puppy won't boot from the hard drive, I'm still getting an HP logo and an invalid boot sector error. Soooo, there's still a hidden portion of the drive that wasn't erased and is trying to find Windows.
 
Old 05-08-2014, 09:47 AM   #28
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It's asking me to find the menu.lst file which should be in /boot, but is not
It should be in the /boot/grub directory. Not sure if that's what you mean and just indicated /boot directory? If you installed Puppy, I would expect it to have created the menu.lst in the appropriate place.
 
Old 05-08-2014, 10:45 AM   #29
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Hello yancek,

Thank you for your reply.

I would have thought the directory and file would have been created as well.

Instead, it seems to want me to install GRUB, but won't let me proceed with the installation. It gets hung up during the creation dialogue and just loops endlessly back to the same initial screen.

I'd like to just delete the partition and start from scratch again, but...

The drive is mounted and won't unmount, even during boot.

The OS forced me to assign a PW so the drive could initially be mounted during boot.

If I don't enter the PW, I'm notified the drive could not be mounted and given some options. I try choosing the option to go to console and enter the command to unmount the drive:

#sudo umount /dev/sda1

But I get the same notification that I do if I try to unmount the drive while working from the desktop, that is the device is busy and can't be unmounted.

From the desktop, I've tried unmounting with the GUI controls and the console.

I would settle for a surefire way to once again delete and format a new partition, then I'll try the install again and go more slowly.

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Old 05-08-2014, 12:09 PM   #30
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I don't use Puppy and haven't installed it for several years. As I remember it, the Grub installation process is very convoluted and has more steps than other distributions. Maybe they've change it?

I'm not sure about the rest of your last post. Are you able to actually boot Puppy on the hard drive? Seems not from your previous post. Are you using a CD/DVD with Puppy? You should be able to delete and/or format any partition. If you are trying to unmount a partition which you are booted to, you would expect the "busy" message.

Do you still have windows on one of the partitions?
 
  


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