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Old 12-20-2007, 04:32 AM   #121
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Good Night and Good Luck


Thanks everybody for all the help and advice.

I'll continue messing on my own. The great thoughts of D Rumsfeld come to mind about known unknowns or unknown knowns, etc.

Some final thoughts - maybe it is the vmware wrapper causing problems. If somebody else would try that, to see if they can replicate the symptoms. I'll give a live cd distro a try.

I'll post the results of that live test here in the next 24 hrs, if your interested.


dv502: special thanks for sticking with me. I actually like linux now & I'm determined to crack this!

cheers
 
Old 12-20-2007, 04:47 AM   #122
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You're welcome

BTW, I am not going away. I'm just not going to post for a while as I ran out of ideas for you to try. I will still monitor the thread. But if you still can't resolve the problem and no one has provided any suggestions, then this thread has run its course.

The linux software forum has lots of viewers. Place a post there since you are having a software issue.

Anyway, good luck
 
Old 12-20-2007, 05:19 AM   #123
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What I like about Linux with all its shortcomings, most distros are one or a few persons developing them. How can these distros in such a short time be so good for free or very small cost. While these billion dollar companies, been around forever, still can't get it completely right!
 
Old 12-20-2007, 05:48 AM   #124
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For what it's worth, I'm using Fedora 8 (64 bit) with pulseaudio (I assume that this is what Vincent was referring to)
Yes! Pulseadio How does it work? Is it mature or still in pre-final form? Can alsa and oss work at the same time? If so, castalla2007 could solve his oss/alsa problems.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 07:06 AM   #125
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What else can I try? is there a bullet proof distro with realplayer and mplayer already installed out-of-thebox ??? - has to be a live .iso or a vmware image.
The magical distro doesn't exist: it's more a question of a distro being right for a person and a system which can be wrong for somebody else. As hinted before, your way of using the OS (live/in VM) may cause the problems since others don't seem to have these issues.
That said, Pardus is a distro with basically everything "non-free" installed & working by default. It's my personal recommendation for linux-newbies and anyone looking for hassle free desktop computing but YMMV. There's an ordinary and a live ISO for download but try to find a fast mirror.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 11:24 AM   #126
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Thanks to all.

Okay - gonna try Pardus as a live CD.

More later.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 05:52 PM   #127
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Live iso PARDUS feedback

Installed PARDUS as live cd ... very impressive distro. Amazingly it picked up my broadcom wifi without any problems - the only distro I've tried which has managed this (Mandriva and Puppy worked with much reconfiguring).

However, I cannot get the package manager to run - it starts up but then just ends without any info feedback. Sound control is dubious (mute doesn't mute).

Now to the crunch - mplayer is installed out-of-the-box. Streamick.com (WM stream) works fine; BBC 1-Minute News fails as both WM or RealAudio (using mplayer plugin) - exactly same symtoms as under vmware distros. No video, no sound - urls load then stop.

Mmmmh?

I am now totally disillusioned - but at least I can conclude that vmware isn't at fault - so I can revert to that method (as it's more convenient).

If anybody has some comments, feel free ....
 
Old 12-21-2007, 03:05 PM   #128
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[...sigh ...]

For the aficionados:

Tried out Sabayon (looks good on paper!) - attempted to install mplayer options (since streamick.com said plugin needed - ie. WM function). The portage software manager has just got to be for non-humans - unintelligible for the (oops ... here he goes again) 'average' user. gave up in despair once again. Although, the Sabayon desktop is really nice. So, the score today is: linux distro - 10, user - 0.


Now, dloading ubuntu 7.10. Gotta give it a try since so many people swear by it.
 
Old 12-21-2007, 03:49 PM   #129
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Hey, castalla2007 looks like things are the same no matter what distro you try.

When you test the BBC site, do you select the high resolution video or standard quality. To change, select preference from the mplayer window on the top right and choose standard quality.

If this dose not work, it's possible somewhere betwwen point A (you) and point B ( BBC server stream ) there is some kind of connection/authentication issue.

I live in the USA, and I am able to play the videos, high and standard with no problems.

If after trying ubuntu and you still get the same or similar symptoms then maybe this is the best you will get out of mplayer no matter which distro you choose at least on your side on the world.

These are just assumptions and not facts to your mplayer problem.

Are there other BBC news websites that you know? Maybe you might have better luck with there streaming servers.

Anyway, good luck with ubuntu...

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Old 12-21-2007, 04:12 PM   #130
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Hi!

I always try the hi quality stream - the lo stream is so jerky!
A reminder: it all works in Vista - so is connection factor an issue?

Sadly, I think the BBC streams are unique to the bbc.co.uk site.

I'm in Spain - I don't know if the streams are shared out to secondary servers (maybe in the US?) to deliver the ads (I think). But shouldn't there be the same problems with windows, then?

It's all very strange.

More later on Ubuntu.

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Old 12-21-2007, 05:04 PM   #131
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Yes, it is weird.

Why I can play the videos and you can't is a complete mystery. I am using linux to play these videos and others try the BBC website as well with different outcomes. I don't think this is a linux issue. If this was so, I would experience the same thing you are having now. There as to be other unknown factors affecting the behavior of linux on your end.

There are so many linux distributions out there. Some people will experience different results from distro to distro. For some people, linux is either a positve or negative experience. Most will quit, and others would stay awhlie and tough it out.

Only you can determine if linux is right for you. Nobody else.

People can point out the cool effects of beryl and compiz fusion when using linux, but this won't mean a hill of beans, if your experience with linux is negative.

For me, linux as been positive and I'm very happy with it.

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Old 12-21-2007, 05:17 PM   #132
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Despite what I said earlier in the thread, I really do like linux - especially, for me, Mandriva feels smooth and easy to use. If only I could crack this video thing - it's like a nagging tooth. I just can't leave it alone!

There must be an answer out there ... somewhere ... somebody! I'll try ubuntu & if it's no go then I think I'll start another thread relating specifically to ubuntu. I tried a Mandriva thread but only got one or two general answers.

Again, you've been really good helping me - I don't feel totally alone in my madness!
 
Old 12-21-2007, 05:41 PM   #133
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try the linux software forum as well, lots of eyes there

- cheers
 
Old 12-21-2007, 06:38 PM   #134
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YES! I've got it working! I had this gut feeling that it would work if I selected RealPlayer rather than Windows Media and then pasted the IP address into the File > Open Location box of RealPlayer, it's a tweak I've had to apply before to access one of our national radio stations. And yes, it works for the BBC too.
 
Old 12-21-2007, 06:47 PM   #135
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So, can you confirm it was the 1-Minute News clip?

What IP or url did you use?

Also, I can get it to work if I choose Launch as Standalone from the BBC box - but no sound unless I run aoss realplayer first.

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