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Old 04-20-2013, 12:51 PM   #1
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Laptop issue


I installed LinuxMint Release 13 (maya) DE: Cinnamon on my DELL inspiron 1720 Laptop. I installed the BOINC program http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php and am attempting to crunch numbers for the Research for a Cure for Cancer effort.

My problem is I am getting a lot of Suspended: CPU usage> indicators. Have I done something wrong in the installation/updates of the DE? What can I do to improve the operation of the BOINC program?

Thanks

P.S. - if you need additional information, please so indicate.
I am not using the Laptop for any other effort. I have an Intel i7 computer for all my personal needs.

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Old 04-20-2013, 01:59 PM   #2
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Hi,

For starters, welcome, you just joined us recently, I see...
Okay, let's see what's running besides BOINC, as an introspective excercise, enter

Quote:
top
in the console and observe the average load. What, besides BOINC pops up? Observe the useage. Got a high gobbler? Okay, let's see what he drags along, in a second console, try this

Quote:
pstree
and locate the gobbler, what is he dragging along?

What's the swapspace like? How much memory is available?

I'll follow this thread, just so I can learn something too...

Thor

by the way... Gandalf...cool name...
 
Old 04-20-2013, 02:45 PM   #3
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top - 12:36:55 up 5 days, 22:36, 2 users, load average: 1.91, 1.83, 1.80
Tasks: 144 total, 1 running, 140 sleeping, 3 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 24.5 us, 9.5 sy, 1.0 ni, 64.7 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.3 si, 0.0 st
KiB Mem: 1933960 total, 1338772 used, 595188 free, 162388 buffers
KiB Swap: 1963004 total, 3328 used, 1959676 free, 706512 cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1103 root 20 0 81052 38m 12m S 20.0 2.1 832:24.40 Xorg
24309 gandalf 20 0 624m 138m 35m S 18.1 7.3 4:23.39 firefox
2015 gandalf 20 0 135m 21m 14m S 12.1 1.1 1590:02 boincmgr
1610 gandalf 20 0 449m 103m 35m S 11.5 5.5 479:22.22 cinnamon
24374 gandalf 20 0 144m 14m 10m S 4.6 0.8 0:21.05 gnome-terminal
19961 gandalf 39 19 2080 1184 792 S 3.9 0.1 141:25.97 wcgrid_gfam_vin
24471 gandalf 20 0 5204 1344 996 R 2.0 0.1 0:04.00 top
2024 gandalf 20 0 21852 11m 4500 S 0.7 0.6 134:20.64 boinc
16992 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 1:29.17 kworker/1:2
18235 gandalf 39 19 81540 63m 4480 S 0.3 3.4 3:00.83 wcg_hpf2_rosett
24472 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.53 kworker/0:0
1 root 20 0 3504 1824 1248 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.27 init
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.44 kthreadd
3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 1:59.75 ksoftirqd/0

gandalf@FrodoBaggins ~ $ pstree
init─┬─NetworkManager─┬─dhclient
│ ├─dnsmasq
│ └─2*[{NetworkManager}]
├─accounts-daemon───{accounts-daemon}
├─acpid
├─at-spi-bus-laun─┬─dbus-daemon
│ └─3*[{at-spi-bus-laun}]
├─at-spi2-registr───{at-spi2-registr}
├─atd
├─avahi-daemon───avahi-daemon
├─bluetoothd
├─boincmgr─┬─boinc─┬─wcg_hpf2_rosett───wcg_hpf2_rosett───wcg_hpf2_rosett
│ │ └─wcgrid_gfam_vin─┬─wcgrid_gfam_vin───wcgrid_gfam_vin
│ │ └─wcgrid_gfam_vin───wcgrid_gfam_vin───wcgrid_gfam_vin
│ └─2*[{boincmgr}]
├─colord───2*[{colord}]
├─console-kit-dae───64*[{console-kit-dae}]
├─cron
├─cupsd
├─3*[dbus-daemon]
├─2*[dbus-launch]
├─dconf-service───2*[{dconf-service}]
├─gconfd-2
├─6*[getty]
├─gksudo─┬─sudo───mintUpdate───{mintUpdate}
│ └─{gksudo}
├─gnome-keyring-d───5*[{gnome-keyring-d}]
├─gnome-terminal─┬─bash───pstree
│ ├─gnome-pty-helpe
│ └─3*[{gnome-terminal}]
├─gsd-printer───{gsd-printer}
├─gvfs-afc-volume───2*[{gvfs-afc-volume}]
├─gvfs-gphoto2-vo───{gvfs-gphoto2-vo}
├─gvfs-udisks2-vo───{gvfs-udisks2-vo}
├─gvfsd───{gvfsd}
├─gvfsd-fuse───4*[{gvfsd-fuse}]
├─gvfsd-metadata───{gvfsd-metadata}
├─gvfsd-trash───{gvfsd-trash}
├─irqbalance
├─mdm───mdm─┬─Xorg
│ └─gnome-session─┬─cinnamon─┬─firefox───32*[{firefox}]
│ │ └─6*[{cinnamon}]
│ ├─gnome-fallback-───2*[{gnome-fallback-}]
│ ├─gnome-screensav───2*[{gnome-screensav}]
│ ├─gnome-settings-─┬─syndaemon
│ │ └─3*[{gnome-settings-}]
│ ├─nemo───2*[{nemo}]
│ ├─nm-applet───2*[{nm-applet}]
│ ├─polkit-gnome-au───{polkit-gnome-au}
│ ├─ssh-agent
│ └─3*[{gnome-session}]
├─modem-manager
├─nmbd
├─polkitd───{polkitd}
├─pulseaudio─┬─gconf-helper
│ └─2*[{pulseaudio}]
├─rsyslogd───3*[{rsyslogd}]
├─rtkit-daemon───2*[{rtkit-daemon}]
├─smbd───smbd
├─udevd───2*[udevd]
├─udisksd───3*[{udisksd}]
├─upowerd───2*[{upowerd}]
├─upstart-socket-
└─upstart-udev-br


and locate the gobbler, what is he dragging along?

What's the swapspace like? How much memory is available?


I'm a wizard, not a demi-god.
You tell me how to locate the gobbler and we'll have it for lunch.
We could have the swapspace for desert, if I knew what it was.
 
Old 04-20-2013, 03:09 PM   #4
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Okay, swapspace is a scratch pad on the hard drive, I suspect Mint has some set aside during install...very few distros do not have swapspace...
This
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KiB Swap: 1963004 total, 3328 used, 1959676 free, 706512 cached
is pretty good news...it means your system does'nt have to swap and is quite content with the memory it has. Swap space is meant to "park" stuff for a while because there's no space for it in memory...

Quote:
─boincmgr─┬─boinc─┬─wcg_hpf2_rosett───wcg_hpf2_rosett───wcg_hpf2_rosett
│ │ └─wcgrid_gfam_vin─┬─wcgrid_gfam_vin───wcgrid_gfam_vin
│ │ └─wcgrid_gfam_vin───wcgrid_gfam_vin───wcgrid_gfam_vin
│ └─2*[{boincmgr}]
This, is what your BOINC needs to work...

Honestly, you've got a pretty solid setup there...
Right now, my load average is ar 0.35, but, I"'ve only got Firefox running, it can go tru the ceiling (and beyond) if I start to experiment with stuff like HTML5...

Okay, so, I assume right NOW, the system is running smoothly. Any indication to what happens when it does hick up? At that moment, could you run top?

Looking on with interest...

And, by the way...

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...I'm only an apprentice, that's why I love Linux, there's sooooo much to learn...

Thor
 
Old 04-20-2013, 03:31 PM   #5
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python caused a stoppage.
Firefox did to, but except for now I wouldn't use Firefox on the Laptop.
gnone-control-c caused a stoppage.
Xorg did too.

Well, that's gives us a starting point.

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Old 04-21-2013, 06:10 AM   #6
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Umm...that's quite a bit o' stoppage...
Have you tried to reinstall these?
Xorg...hmm, that could be a problem. Okay, let's go methodically, when last did you run an update? Try this first, that way, we rule out outdated stuff...

Looking on with awe....but from a distance

Thor
 
Old 04-21-2013, 09:33 AM   #7
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I update about every Saturday or Sunday. I did it yesterday.
I understand there is a newer release out...
http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
I could start over with that, if you agree that there is really nothing to loose.
I guess the worse to happen is we have the same issue again.
I don't mind taking the time, if it has a chance of stopping these stoppages.

P.S. - It is nice to have a Demi-God as a backstop for dumb ideas.

Edit - It turned out to be an upgrade vice a new release, but I upgraded anyway. Time will tell if it does any good.
http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61

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Old 04-21-2013, 01:46 PM   #8
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I have tried a couple of things.

1. I had the Pre-Released version of BOINC running. I replaced it with the Recommended version.
2. I cut the configuration down from using both processors to using only one (50%). That limits the tasking to one at a time not two.
This also allows the CPU to have 50% of its time for internal duties. Which is more productive? Run two task and stop for gas at ever step or run only one task and hopefully you're driving a Prius.

Time will tell. I'll keep you advised.
 
Old 04-22-2013, 04:03 AM   #9
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Ah, hm, ow, wait, that (the pre-realease idea) is never really a clever idea. Pre-release is laced with stuff that's not solved yet...clever move to get to the stable release...good for you!

Be followin' on...

Thor
 
Old 04-22-2013, 04:31 AM   #10
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FYI - I have the Pre-release version in my 4 Win7 computers without this kind of issue.
 
Old 04-22-2013, 10:25 PM   #11
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Update:

Running time for a similar task under Win7 is taking 3:58/3:32. That's real time/computer time. The Linux laptop reads 15:01/13:57. That tells me there was a total of an hour of CPU stoppage during the running of this task.
 
Old 04-25-2013, 04:00 AM   #12
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Hmm...that cannot be good...
I could be tied in with the difference in architecture between the two platforms. But...THIS much stoppage...
Do you still have outages, by tha way?

Srry 4 the delay...I got tied up in an other mess

Thor
 
Old 04-25-2013, 11:37 AM   #13
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I don't know where to go from here. I don't see the Suspend notice like before. I suspect I'll just have to live with this slow processing of the tasks.
 
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I've been meditating...(happens to me some time) do you have a redundant (old) PC somewhere? Maybe setting things up on that box (without messing up your current setups) with a LITE distro could help...just to be complete...
Okay, let's make some suggestion here Arch Linux, if you're up to it. Light and highly customisable...be warned, this is not for the fainthearthed
 
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The laptop that I am having issue with is the "old" PC. OK, it's not a PC but it thinks it is. It's only working one task at a time, so if you have some ideas (heaven forbid), I'm willing to go along as long you don't leave me hanging.
 
  


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