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Old 06-22-2005, 03:19 AM   #1
ChipMaker_Man
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Knoppix and internet connection???


I have a Sager 8880 Notebook PC with a Smart Link 56K Voice Modem.

I'm trying to get Knoppix ( The bootable Linux Distro ) to log onto the internet.

I'm a Newbie to Linux and am lost about what I need to do to get online with Knoppix.

I downloaded the Linux drivers from smlink. com/content.aspx?id=132
(This is my first post and it is making me change the url do to a spam thing. Just take the spaces out if you need to see the drivers i have downloaded)

I have no idea which driver to use or if I even have the right one that will support the Smart Link 56K Voice Modem on my Sager Notebook PC.
(I have a post at their tech support on that question)

If anyone is a Linux Guru: Can you tell me if I can save the drivers straight to the 'Live Knoppix 3.9 CD' and somehow write a file path to tell Knoppix to look there and use that drive to connect the modem to my ISP.

I know this is a broad question, but what are all the things I need to fill in when setting up the dialer for an internet connection. I saw a place that said I could setup things for knoppix to do before dialing and is this where I tell Knoppix to look for the driver and use it.

Am I even close to getting Knoppix to log onto my ISP? And can I do what I'm hoping to do?


Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Old 06-22-2005, 07:16 AM   #2
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Welcome to LQ!

What you downloaded is the driver source code. It has to be compiled first. Frankly, I do not know how to accomplish this using only LiveCD. I'd say you need a Linux partition on your HDD to do this. Perhaps you can use a virtual filesystem in RAM.
Then you need to rebuild the Knoppix iso image, adding your new kernel modules to it.
Issue 'lspci' command from command line to learn about your hardware if in doubt.
Good luck.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 03:46 AM   #3
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Thanks for the welcome Emerson.

I used Partition Magic 6 to do a 6 gig Fat32 file at the end of D drive, which is part of drive C and now I don�t see the drives and what I had on D drive Like I should.

In the beginning I had one 40 Gig HD� I chopped it into� both were NTFS�. D was the backup drive in a way.

I defragged drive D before I took the 6 Gigs off the ass end of it to load Knoppix on�. Now I can�t see the front of the D drive which was a download and backup space� Not to worry.. I will find a way to fix it.. the data is still there I can see it in Dos.


I will work on fixing that later�. I�m download Acronis to redo the drives and such.

If I have to I will boot the Partition Magic crap again and fix it that way.

Anyway thanks for the welcome� I will beat the crap out of knoppix yet and make it log onto the net.

I�m also working on a download of Xandros�. That will take a week or more on my dialup.

Any other help will be graciously received and welcomed.

the chipMaker.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 03:48 AM   #4
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I'm using winXP to post and the fonts are all googlie (crazy) tonight... whats the deal?
 
Old 06-23-2005, 03:51 AM   #5
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Ok I think i see.. It is My (dot dot dot dot dot typying)

I type...... things like this to cut thoughts short....
 
Old 06-23-2005, 03:56 AM   #6
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not the dot.. it's the Apostrophe that is doing it


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Old 06-23-2005, 07:43 AM   #7
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The choice of software is your call of course, actually there are some good disk/partition management tools on Knoppix CD. You may want to have a look at 'cfdisk' and 'parted'.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 09:26 PM   #8
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Ok I worked out what was wrong in seeing the partitions on my HD. I just needed to rename the drives.

Right now I’m just too new the Linux to try and use their partitioning tools to play with a working XP laptop, but I’m not going to give up on trying to get Knoppix online with my ISP.

I’m going to do some reading up on how to install knoppix on the Fat32 partition I made and what I need to do to boot into it. (The partition is about 6 gigs )

Hopefully I will not have to do a reinstall of XP to do a dual boot setup.

Any Tut’s you may know of on how to do this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the help and suggestions Emerson, and I will read up on the partitioning tools you mentioned.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 11:54 PM   #9
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Try to avoid using Partition Magic for your partitioning -- it has been known to cause too many problems while mixing NTFS, FAT and Ext3 file systems. Linux distros like Mandriva and Redhat have very adequate partition managers on their own and they cost nothing!
 
Old 06-24-2005, 02:30 AM   #10
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Thanks Harlin.

Right now all I have is Knoppix as a Linux Distro … I’m doing a BitTorrent for Xandros ask I type this speak. It will take a few days more to finish it.

I’m a SUPER NEWBIE when it comes to Linux and I have no idea how to do anything in Linux yet. But I’m willing to learn and try like hell.

I will bill myself (here) as an ‘Upper class intermediate Windows user’ with zero Linux experience under my belt.

So all I really know is Windoze OS stuff.

But I not scared to try Linux at all…I just need to know what I could screw up in the process of getting a Linux OS up and running on a working XP PC.

As said above in my last post that I’m reading stuff on how I can get going in the right direction with the things I would like to start with.

My first goal is to log onto the net with a Linux OS… That’s a good start I think… then I can read tut’s and play with the OS “live” in real time.
 
Old 06-24-2005, 02:58 AM   #11
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I’m a SUPER NEWBIE when it comes to Linux and I have no idea how to do anything in Linux yet. But I’m willing to learn and try like hell.
For your first installation, I insist that you try Mandriva. For $10 I can get you a DVD with the download edition of it. It is a piece of cake to get installed especially if you plan to dual boot Windows with it.

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But I not scared to try Linux at all…I just need to know what I could screw up in the process of getting a Linux OS up and running on a working XP PC.
Just back up your Windows data if you are paranoid, otherwise you should be ok as long as you follow the install directions. This applies much to any distro you might install.

Good luck!
 
Old 06-24-2005, 04:39 PM   #12
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No offence Harlin but there are so many flavors of Linux out there that it is impossible to know which one is right for anyone. Especially if you are picking one for the first time.

With Knoppix I can date the bitch and see if I like her. And why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?

It may be that I need to pay for Linux to get a good working Distro that I can learn to love, but I have read so many love and hate stories on Linux that it is impossible for me to commit money at this time, even if it is only ten bucks. That’s a 1/3 of a tank of gas.

I’m not saying Linux users hate Linux, I’m just saying that all of you seem to have their favorite flavor of Linux.

http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-6617-0....sageID=1222373

http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-6617-0....sageID=1237091

I have been reading all I can and making posts too. I think my knoppix problem should be a simple thing to solve with all the Linux users out and about, but no one has solved it yet.

So the task of solving my problem falls on me, the “Super Linux Newbie”.

Any help or comments will be greatly appreciated.
 
Old 06-24-2005, 05:03 PM   #13
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With Knoppix I can date the bitch and see if I like her. And why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?
This is funny. With a live CD you can do just that.

I respect your view on Knoppix and indeed it is a good tool for the super-fearful Windows user (not that there's anything wrong with that ) who does not want to commit to hard-drive tampering that is required when installing any OS. I have used it at work when the powers-that-be would not allow us to make any OS changes to our boxes (hey, it's theirs... what can I do? Now I just bring my laptop to work).

Forgive my enthusiasm for Mandriva. In the past I did enjoy playing around with Linux and getting to know it. So, I started with Mandrake (now Mandriva of course) and Suse. After a while I moved on to Slackware, Debian, Gentoo and the ultimate Linux time-waster LFS . Finally, I tired of doing this sort of thing (I get a kick more out of app development than anything) and just decided I want a Linux distro that will allow me to install it with minimal post-install configuration. I just wanted something to work when I installed it even if it wasn't running perfectly to my preferred specs.

After seriously evaluating some distros for this specific purpose I have settled on Mandriva. Redhat and Suse run a close second and third but for a workstation/desktop system that runs great out of the box, Mandriva can't be beat. I also realize that in this sense Mandriva would be perfect for the Windows Professional/Linux novice or even the computer novice (in general).

Hey, I believe that anyone who voices an opinion should be able to explain why they feel the way they do. So if anyone is reading this wondering what distro they should start out with, this is my 2 cents worth. Results and opinions may vary.
 
Old 06-25-2005, 06:41 AM   #14
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Smile Wireless setup on Acer 370 Intel Centrino

Hi Experts,

I am a Newbie on Linux system...me currently uses Red Hat 9.

Would like 2 ask this = I am using ACer 370 with intel centrino wireless built-in, when i press "iwconfig" it shows no wireless device found", so how can i activate it like in Win XP OS?

Prob auto detech.....???

Thanks
 
  


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