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Old 10-17-2012, 04:01 PM   #1
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Kernel Panic, What to do?


Hopefully the picture is readable. I took it with my phone. My computer is not cooperating, when boots it stay fine for about 10 min then goes into panic, sometimes the panic occurs during the booting process. If somebody knows what to do I would appreciate any advice.

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Old 10-17-2012, 04:42 PM   #2
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Hmmm. Sometimes the only evidence you can get is a picture of the dump! :-) If you can reboot check the /var/log/messages to see if there is anything special written in there.

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Rule out faulty hardware. If the system boots check the temperatures.
Test your RAM with Memtest86+.
Test your harddisk with the manufacturer's diagnosis tool.
 
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I suspect is hardware too, although memory comes out fine and hard drive is also good. I think is the video card. Or the part of the board that controls the video. I dont know how to test it though. Wonder if I will have to replace the whole motherboard. I will appreciate more advice. Thank you
 
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What about the temperatures?
Also, which hardware do you actually have? We can't help without information.
 
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In Fedora there is a package lm_sensors. To install from the root prompt on Fedora you do yum install lm_sensors. It is a wrapper around your built-in sensors. To execute it, you type sensors from a command prompt. I have used it with a laptop that would overheat on the PCI card and turn itself off (sometimes in the install process). Here is my output. After install of the package, run sensors-detect from a root command prompt. This will look at your system and configure the sensors. I answered YES to all the questions.
Code:
# sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +40.0C  (crit = +75.0C)

dme1737-i2c-6-2e
Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 0500
5VSB:         +5.06 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
Vcore:        +1.24 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +2.99 V)
+3.3V:        +3.37 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
+5V:          +5.17 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
+12V:        +11.93 V  (min = +10.81 V, max = +13.19 V)
3VSB:         +3.32 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
Vbat:         +0.00 V  (min =  +2.70 V, max =  +3.30 V)
fan1:        2221 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan2:        1321 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan4:           0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
temp1:         +0.0C  (low  = -127.0C, high = +73.0C)
SIO Temp:     +38.3C  (low  = -127.0C, high = +73.0C)
temp3:        +63.6C  (low  = -127.0C, high = +73.0C)
cpu0_vid:    +0.913 V

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Hope that helps! Please let us know!!

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O.k so I did check the temp, here are the results
Quote:
user@linux-desktop:~$ sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +40.0C (crit = +100.0C)

k8temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp: +50.0C

k8temp-pci-00cb
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp: +39.0C
I also did this other check, Although I dont know what it means it shows the drivers and hardware is loaded in this computer. I will appreciate all advice

Quote:
user@linux-desktop:~$ sudo sensors-detect
[sudo] password for user:
# sensors-detect revision 5984 (2011-07-10 21:22:53 +0200)

This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need
to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe
and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions,
unless you know what you're doing.

Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): y
Module cpuid loaded successfully.
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595... No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors... No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors... No
AMD K8 thermal sensors... Success!
(driver `k8temp')
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 12h and 14h thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 15h thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 15h power sensors... No
Intel digital thermal sensor... No
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor... No
VIA C7 thermal sensor... No
VIA Nano thermal sensor... No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no): y
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x2e/0x2f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'... No
Trying family `SMSC'... No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'... Yes
Found `Winbond W83627THF/THG Super IO Sensors' Success!
(address 0x290, driver `w83627hf')
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x4e/0x4f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'... No
Trying family `SMSC'... No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'... No
Trying family `ITE'... No

Some systems (mainly servers) implement IPMI, a set of common interfaces
through which system health data may be retrieved, amongst other things.
We first try to get the information from SMBIOS. If we don't find it
there, we have to read from arbitrary I/O ports to probe for such
interfaces. This is normally safe. Do you want to scan for IPMI
interfaces? (YES/no): y
Probing for `IPMI BMC KCS' at 0xca0... No
Probing for `IPMI BMC SMIC' at 0xca8... No

Some hardware monitoring chips are accessible through the ISA I/O ports.
We have to write to arbitrary I/O ports to probe them. This is usually
safe though. Yes, you do have ISA I/O ports even if you do not have any
ISA slots! Do you want to scan the ISA I/O ports? (yes/NO): y
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' at 0x290... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' at 0x290... No
Probing for `Winbond W83781D' at 0x290... No
Probing for `Winbond W83782D' at 0x290... No

Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no): y
Using driver `i2c-viapro' for device 0000:00:11.0: VIA Technologies VT8237 South Bridge
Module i2c-dev loaded successfully.

Next adapter: nouveau-0000:01:00.0-2 (i2c-0)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y

Next adapter: nouveau-0000:01:00.0-0 (i2c-1)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y
Client found at address 0x4a
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75A'... No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS75'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM77'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7410'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7411'... No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS1621/DS1631'... No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6642'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM73'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM92'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM76'... No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6633/MAX6634/MAX6635'... No
Probing for `NXP/Philips SA56004'... No
Client found at address 0x4b
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75A'... No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS75'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM77'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7410'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7411'... No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS1621/DS1631'... No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6642'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM92'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM76'... No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6633/MAX6634/MAX6635'... No
Probing for `NXP/Philips SA56004'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7481'... No
Client found at address 0x50
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'... No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'... No
Probing for `EDID EEPROM'... Yes
(confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)

Next adapter: nouveau-0000:01:00.0-1 (i2c-2)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y

Next adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 5000 (i2c-3)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y
Client found at address 0x2f
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM80'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7470'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83781D'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83782D'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83791D'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83792D'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83793R/G'... No
Probing for `Nuvoton W83795G/ADG'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83627HF'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83627EHF'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83627DHG/W83667HG/W83677HG'... No
Probing for `Asus AS99127F (rev.1)'... No
Probing for `Asus AS99127F (rev.2)'... No
Probing for `Asus ASB100 Bach'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83L786NR/NG/R/G'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM9240'... No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS1780'... No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM81'... No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6639'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1029'... No
Probing for `ITE IT8712F'... No
Probing for `Fintek custom power control IC'... No
Probing for `Winbond W83791SD'... No
Client found at address 0x50
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'... No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'... Yes
(confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)
Probing for `EDID EEPROM'... No
Client found at address 0x51
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'... No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'... Yes
(confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)
Client found at address 0x52
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'... No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'... Yes
(confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)
Client found at address 0x53
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'... No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'... No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'... Yes
(confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)

Now follows a summary of the probes I have just done.
Just press ENTER to continue:

Driver `w83627hf':
* ISA bus, address 0x290
Chip `Winbond W83627THF/THG Super IO Sensors' (confidence: 9)

Driver `k8temp' (autoloaded):
* Chip `AMD K8 thermal sensors' (confidence: 9)

To load everything that is needed, add this to /etc/modules:
#----cut here----
# Chip drivers
w83627hf
#----cut here----
If you have some drivers built into your kernel, the list above will
contain too many modules. Skip the appropriate ones!

Do you want to add these lines automatically to /etc/modules? (yes/NO)n

Unloading i2c-dev... OK
Unloading cpuid... OK
 
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Try running sensors again. Post the output here.

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No much difference from last time here is the result
Quote:
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +40.0C (crit = +100.0C)

k8temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp: +50.0C

k8temp-pci-00cb
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp: +40.0C
 
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What happened with me was the PCI-adapter heated up from about +39.0C to 100.0C then it shutdown. Watch the PCI tempratures for about 10 minutes and see if overheats. It was with my laptop, is this on your Thinkpad or your HP?

I think temperature is more critical on laptops because every thing is scrunched in a small package, and relies more on the fan to cool it down. For my desktops, the temp stays very stable. On my laptop the temp grows over time.

Hope this helps.

- Raj
 
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We still no nothing about your hardware, but your temperatures look somewhat weird. Could you please measure them again when the system is under heavy load?
 
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Additional suggestion.
Could you post your hardware list here? (use lshw or inxi or commands for listing all HW like lsusb, lspci, dmesg output..).
And take all hardware away (pci usb, webcam, sound, sata ..) from the PC which is not necessary for the the basic setup.
Personally I experienced kernel panics:
- dependent of the distro (start with a new small one; partedmagic or crunchbang or knoppix instead of a full fat ubuntu)
- related to video hardware (some drivers were ok, others nok): moving the mouse and making graphic activities bring quick a kernel panic
Hopefully it helps.
 
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Back to where we were, Here is the output of lspci. I have to mention that this desktop it was put together from parts that were laying aroung at a friends house. It was working find but couple of weeks ago started having the kernel panic attacks.

Quote:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8385 [K8T800 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/8251 PCI bridge [K8M890/K8T800/K8T890 South]
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X
00:06.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] Input device controller
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03)
00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:10.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.4 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
00:19.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:19.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:19.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:19.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)
The Temp hasnt changed that much neither
Quote:
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +40.0C (crit = +100.0C)

k8temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp: +52.0C

k8temp-pci-00cb
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp: +41.0C
I will appreciate all advice.
 
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You have 2 times Audio? Take one away and see.

I have a similar old nvidia card on one PC see http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index....html#msg71748
and still not happy with the nv driver of tinycorelinux (it still freeze after a time despite it is announced in the post it is solved).
My feeling (from remember), with "nouveau" is better, see http://www.knoppixforum.de/knoppix-f...e-mit-6-7.html the solution was tu use the bootcode "xmodule=nouveau nouveau.noaccel=1 screen=1024x768 depth=24" in knoppix.
So, perhaps you changed the driver of your card? I would give a try to "nouveau". For the reason I used this PC for 2 days in a school for a PC training, I cannot say 100% "nouveau" is the right thing. Just test it.
 
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I do suspect is the video, but I dont know if it is driver being used or the actual card asking for a break. The drive in use for video is Nouveau I wonder if I switch to mesa the problem will go away.
I am contenplating the idea of re install the OS and also the idea of purchasing a newer card
here is the out put of lspic -knn

Quote:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] [10de:0326] (rev a1)
Kernel driver in use: nouveau
Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb
I will appreciate all advice, Thank you.
 
  


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