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Old 03-21-2003, 10:59 AM   #1
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Just about had it with Redhat 8.0

Forgive my rudeness but Linux has caused me nothing but a headache. Red hat 8.0 refuses to restart or close down properly it just hangs with the power light on. I am using a packard bell ipower laptop.

How the hell do you update openoffice? I mean why can you not uninstall the damm thing and install the new version is beyond me, it is simple in Windows. When I installed the new version I only had project management and the drawing tool why? The documentation said it is located in the /home/user folder just overwrite the old folder. Could not find the openoffice 1.0 folder. Don't get me wrong I am really pleased with the fact this is free, but lets face it no mp3 support what is that about? Mounting a floppy disk to save a file, what?

Why can't you have a tick box to save the root password if you wish. I mean typing the password in all the time is a bit time cosuming and I fully understand security.

You may just think I am have ago but when you can not do simple tasks it is a bit difficult to big up linux. Please help as I really want to beleive that linux is not a complete waste of time.
Old 03-21-2003, 12:27 PM   #2
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Don't know about the laptop, dont' have is a link that might help.

When you say you only have one or two of the apps, perform this check to see if they are installed.

[root@localhost bin]# pwd
[root@localhost bin]# ls oo*
oocalc ooffice oomath oosetup oowriter
oodraw ooimpress oopadmin ootags

I looked at the instructions at the OO site, they looked
pretty simple. Also, it appears that they might be in /opt/ you might find them in /opt/OpenOffice/bin or thereabouts. Question..1.0.2 isn't a big release, why did you upgrade from 1.0.1? Not being facetious, I want to know if I should upgrade as well.

MP3 in Redhat, they don't want to get into trouble when MS bribes/blackmails the MP3 group to destroy Redhat. They have to tread lightly because they are becoming successful. Prime for destruction by MS. A 3 minute trip to fixes the problem, or like so many, use ogg. ogg is much better in all respects.

As for the security, I would dump the release that allowed for bypassing root for any system level updates. Gone. Sure it takes a few seconds, but not allowing automatically a virus, trojan, or user who doesn't comprehend that delete means remove a file is from my perspective very critical. Not a slam, just my point of view.

I would counter that Windows is counter-intutive and doing the basics in Windows is convoluted and difficult. Of course, I am a Windows newbie every time I help others with Windows. Get used to the deterministic, logical and consistant way Linux is laid out and programs are installed (tar, rpm, etc) and you are set. It will take a little time to get fully used to it.

Old 03-21-2003, 04:41 PM   #3
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And if you're fed up with RedHat, try one of the other distros. Maybe you'd like Mandrake better, or Libranet, or Xandros...
Old 03-21-2003, 05:06 PM   #4
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or debian or slackware(9.0!) or gentoo.... i know linux can be frustrating sometimes. just remember that a big chunk of the stuff you are using was written by people in their free time and released under gnu for the benifit of all of us. linux is still young in a lot of ease of use ways, but its getting a lot better. Mandrake is super simple to set up and gentoo's package system is genius. just remember that if you just want to use you your computer and not think about it then windows is the one to use for the next year or so. just remember that by learning linux now you won't have to when every is using it next year
Old 03-21-2003, 05:17 PM   #5
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try slackware...i've been using linux for about a week and a half now....and so far i tried red hat and mandrake..

managed to screw them up during the first 3 days......

right now it's been more than 3 days and slack is working flawlessly.....
Old 03-22-2003, 04:02 AM   #6
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Hey thanks for all your replies. I tried loading mandrake 9.0 after on my laptop and had more problems it said it could not detect the ee. I think it was referring to the laptop screen. Also on a reboot I tried logging and the keyboard went weird. I typed in root and it came up as r66r. I did choose the right keyboard. Don't get me wrong I have tried using earlier versions of mandrake 7 and 8.2 with some degree of success.

I know some people on here are really fussy about saying do not compare Linux and windows but the truth is I work in technical position in my company and they have asked me to try out Linux, to see if it is feasible to implement and so far my main difficulties are navigating and naticulus and the amount of packages which I feel is just as much a good thing as a bad thing. I have tried star office and office suite on Windows with great success and this has brought our licensing costs down considerably.

I also believe that my laptop is too new that Linux has not yet caught up with it so I will try it on an older system. By the way what where is the device manager in Linux so I can configure devices?

I would like to contribute by submitting my bugs to Linux how do you go about doing this? Thanks for help once again, I think I will go out and buy a book.


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