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Old 04-20-2005, 01:00 AM   #1
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Installing Programs

I'm having trouble installing programs. I have installed firefox and java but it took WAY too long and I can't imagine doing this for every program. Is there an easier way?

It took forever to find out I NEED to use the Console. I can't seem to install amsn ether. In windows I just click on the install file and away we go and sometimes I havta unzip something and then click on the install file but in Mandrake I havta go into Console, Type in a bunch of random stuff that I havta look up on the internet every-time to unzip it, Then go on the internet AGAIN to find out how to install. Whats with these random ".tar.gz" files?! TOO MUCH!

I'm not trying to diss Linux in any way. I'm just really frusterated because i've spent 4 hours and only installed 2 programs. I do have an open mind and am willing to learn and figure this out. Please just send me on the right track.

Is there an easier way? Will I get usto it soon? Thanks

P.S. Can someone tell me all the commands for unzipping(or unpacking or w/e it's called), and installing for deferent kinds of files?

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Old 04-20-2005, 01:13 AM   #2
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I guess you are using Mandrake then? Learn how to use and configure urpmi, it's going to be your best friend:

about installing programs in Linux, it's in a sticky:

Good luck!
Old 04-20-2005, 01:18 AM   #3
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i dont think u NEED to use the terminal to install programs.. there should be a graphical front-end tool that you can use like Windoz' Add/Remove Programs or something similar. i use ubuntu and this tool is called Synaptic, its a GUI front end tool for the apt (advanced packaging tool) system. i dont know much about all the details because im still very new to linux and someone can correct me.. but apt is like a easier and central way of managing (installing/removing/updating) packages (programs) on linux. apt is the terminal-driven tool.

when u download the source of a program and 'install it from source' it takes longer, yes. when u download programs (ie limewire) the developers might also release 'executable binaries' that are .bin files that u download and run with a single command and is similar to double clicking 'install.exe'.

the random stuff that you have to type will become meaningful and easier to remmeber if you practice with it and look into what it means.. it wont be 'random' anymore.

when u download a program it will (should) come with a README file which is a text file that can guide you through the basic install procedure of the program.. or also there mgiht be a INSTALL text file which contains this info.

ya, its not unzipping.. thats winzips proprietary term. its called 'extracting'. its pretty simple once u know what it is... you just type something like
tar -xzvf myfile.tar.gz
the x means 'extract'
the z is when using .gz files... use j if its a .bz file
the v means 'verbose'.. ie it will output the files/directories involved in the extract
the f specifies the file to use and is the last letter
Old 04-20-2005, 03:19 AM   #4
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Probably the reason it is taking so long is that you're building from source learn your distro's tool (I think it was just mentioned) so you can get binaries instead
Old 04-20-2005, 08:33 PM   #5
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Thanks everyone. I don't get how to download/install urpmi. The site is confusing. Also, I'm trying yo put a new skin on AMSN but it wont work. I try to put the file in the "skin" folder but It says Access denied.

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Old 04-20-2005, 09:03 PM   #6
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if it says access denied that u means u dont have enough privelages to do what your trying to do.. log in as root then try the command and u will be able to do it. or type 'sudo ' infront of the command your doing
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I'm doing it in KDE (I don't really know how to use the console yet) and There's no way to log in as root. I know how to in a Non-gui but then I dont know how to do what I need to do cause I dont know how to move a folder from one folder to an other. Please help.
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Click "logout", then "End current session", for user type "root" then enter password.
Also from a console try "kdesu konqueror" to open konqueror as root.
With urpmi you click on the dropdowns for the mirrors that are close to you, then type what it says at the bottom of the page in a console. is another good place to find RPM's for Mandrake, try to only use versions for your version of Mandy.
Installing RPM's will go faster than trying to build from source.


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