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Old 03-05-2007, 09:01 AM   #1
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Unhappy Installing on Redhat 9


I am use to Windows and am more than likely the least knowledgeable person on these forms. However, I have learn that a rpm is like an exe and a tar is a compressed file but I am trying to install Wine and get the error (Packages not found : glibc >=2.3.2-27.9.7) SO i search sourceforge.net and found a Giwine installer that is in tar format and after uncompressing i have a readme text file and what looks like a text file that can run as a program. I ran this gc after being presented with the option to run,display or cancel. I choose run and nothing happens. Hmmm if someone could assist me the it would stop me from switching back to windows. Every 2 years or so I try to use Linux and can never install. I simply giveup after a week or two. Thank you
 
Old 03-05-2007, 09:17 AM   #2
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I am use to Windows and am more than likely the least knowledgeable person on these forms.
Don't count on it....
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However, I have learn that a rpm is like an exe and a tar is a compressed file
Both wrong:
.rpm is a package format, and .exe is a windows executable.
.tar is an archive format. files are often put into .tar format and then the .tar archive is compressed.

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Every 2 years or so I try to use Linux and can never install. I simply giveup after a week or two.
Why?? Stick with it this time.

First, get rid of RedHat 9--it is obsolete. With any of the modern distros, WINE will be installed using the package manager and you will not have any depedency issues.

For picking a modern distro, go here: http://distrowatch.com/ Anything in the top ten on their "hit list" will be fine.
 
Old 03-05-2007, 09:20 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by rusking
I am use to Windows and am more than likely the least knowledgeable person on these forms. However, I have learn that a rpm is like an exe and a tar is a compressed file but I am trying to install Wine and get the error (Packages not found : glibc >=2.3.2-27.9.7) SO i search sourceforge.net and found a Giwine installer that is in tar format and after uncompressing i have a readme text file and what looks like a text file that can run as a program. I ran this gc after being presented with the option to run,display or cancel. I choose run and nothing happens. Hmmm if someone could assist me the it would stop me from switching back to windows. Every 2 years or so I try to use Linux and can never install. I simply giveup after a week or two. Thank you
Are you using Red Hat 9? If yes, the first suggestion anyone here can give you is to get a more recent and up-to-date distribution. RH 9 is over 3 years old and has been discontinued. You will likely run into many software incompatibilities. I've never installed Wine so I won't be able to help you a great deal. Only thing I can say is try installing it using your package manager.

BTW, if you like RH 9, Fedora Core would fit like a glove. The latest fedora release is #6.

Edit: Pixellany already said what I had to...and even more

Last edited by tuxrules; 03-05-2007 at 09:22 AM.
 
Old 03-05-2007, 09:23 AM   #4
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I do have Open Suse 10.2 Live DVD but my pc is only 128MB of Ram and 10.2 take at least 512MB Ram. Where can i go to see the requierments for the distros?
 
Old 03-05-2007, 09:23 AM   #5
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(glibc >=2.3.2-27.9.7) means that this is a dependancy that hasn't been met in order to install wine.

But, if i we're you i'd go with a newer version of RH, like Fedora Core, this has a FAR easier package manager that allows you to install things faster and easier. Or perhaps Ubuntu (kubuntu/xubuntu). Or any other distro in the Top 10 of Distrowatch.org.

Anyway, if you don't want to switch:

Download newest glibc here: glibc


Now open up a terminal and CD to where the file was saved:


type:

tar zxvf glibc-2.5.tar.gz

now cd into the created dir:

cd glibc-2.5 (<<< EXAMPLE)

now inside type:

./configure

when it's finished type:

make

when this is finished type:

su (enter your root password)

now your logged in as root and type:

make install


Now when this is finished, try reinstalling wine.


But my advice would be to install a newer OS. Fedora Core / Ubuntu / OpenSuSe .. Or any other of the Top10 from distrowatch!

**EDIT: damn, you guys we're all before me! oh well**

Last edited by puntjuh; 03-05-2007 at 09:24 AM.
 
Old 03-05-2007, 10:04 AM   #6
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Well guys/girls i guess i will get a newer disro. I am uncertain the differences between the disros due to the nazies at Microsoft I have never been given many options. At least not without attacking my wallet. I only choose redhat because i thought the the rpm could self execute, making installs easy (this is why i failed in the past) I did read a chapter or two on C++ and i was wondering...am i going to have to compile source code to a executable or is this simply an option?
 
Old 03-05-2007, 10:13 AM   #7
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I only choose redhat because i thought the the rpm could self execute, making installs easy (this is why i failed in the past) I did read a chapter or two on C++ and i was wondering...am i going to have to compile source code to a executable or is this simply an option?
As said earlier, RPMs will not self execute, but you can certainly install them easily on the system. The only problem is that software in Linux is compiled against various other software (dependencies) and sometimes against specific versions. If you don't have those dependencies installed, RPM is going to complain. The best way to resolve all this is to let the package manager do the hard work.

If you get a newer distro, installation will be a breeze. You can certainly compile software from source as a learning exercise but for the most cases, simply doing
Code:
yum update
Code:
yum install <name-of-software>
(Assuming you are going to get Fedora) will get you that software.
 
Old 03-05-2007, 10:19 AM   #8
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rpm does sort of self execute, only thing is you have to do "rpm -ivh mypackage.rpm" if there are no dependencies, else yum install mypackage.rpm is the easier way out.
(though if yum is not installed there may be a long list of dependencies before yum is installed)
To run a program, one has to compile it, in linux the compiler will make an executable though not .exe (have I got your question right?)
 
Old 03-05-2007, 10:25 AM   #9
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tuxrules i didn't want you to think that i was not listening to you. I was simply stating my previous state of mind. I thank you all for helping me as much as you already have. Sadly this site is my only help. BUt its not looking to bad I belive i am going to go with Fedora as long as a 500MHz 128MB Ram pc can run it. What is this package manager? I may be stating the obvious but does it install package automatically or easily? Is it already in Fedora or do i have to install it?
 
Old 03-05-2007, 11:00 AM   #10
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tuxrules i didn't want you to think that i was not listening to you. I was simply stating my previous state of mind. I thank you all for helping me as much as you already have. Sadly this site is my only help. BUt its not looking to bad I belive i am going to go with Fedora as long as a 500MHz 128MB Ram pc can run it. What is this package manager? I may be stating the obvious but does it install package automatically or easily? Is it already in Fedora or do i have to install it?
Any modern distro will have a package manager pre-installed. In Fedora it is called YUM. There is a menu entry which will be called something like "add/remove programs"
 
Old 03-05-2007, 01:06 PM   #11
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Ok then i'v downloaded 60% of iso 1 and 2 of Fedora 5. Wow 6 cd's...do i need all of them now for the install?
 
Old 03-05-2007, 01:13 PM   #12
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I prefer the approach used by Ubuntu and others: Install minimum system with 1 CD and then get everything over the Internet with the package manager. With Fedora, I don't know the minimum, but I am sure it is not 6

Try it and see.....
 
Old 03-05-2007, 08:53 PM   #13
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A minimal install can be done with one CD, the installer will ask you to insert the next CD if you have it, else it will proceed. The sixth CD is a rescue disk which may not be needed now.
As other members have told, after minimal install, rest of the software can be loaded as per requirement from internet/install disks
 
Old 03-05-2007, 09:59 PM   #14
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Well I tried to install Fedora 5 and had some problems with it freezing before actual instal started. It's kind of making me shakey
 
Old 03-06-2007, 03:59 AM   #15
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Can I suggest you try Xubuntu?

This comes on only one CD, and has excelled hardware detection and should be more stable than FC5. Also, Xubuntu uses the light-weight XFCE desktop rather than KDE or Gnome, so it is better for lower spec'ed machines.

--Ian
 
  


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