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Old 12-02-2012, 11:31 AM   #1
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Installing Live distros on a lenovo thinkpad


I've dual booted windows and linux for many years but I don't
understand how to do this with windows 7. (So, not a complete newbie, but feel like one.)

I have a new laptop, a lenovo x220, with w7, and want to put
xubuntu 12.10 (time is short, otherwise I'd use debian or scilinux)
on it, preferably preserving the w7.

I cannot get the lenovo to recognize a live distro.

I'm currently trying with

xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso

burnt onto a dvd.

Restarting with the dvd in the optical drive, the system just boots
into w7. Clicking on the file from inside w7 just leads to an offer
to burn a copy.

I earlier tried to install ubuntu 12.04 from a usb drive. This seemed to work but the screen offering the choice of os (Windows Boot Manager) flashes by in less than a second.

Using the ThinkVantage button just opens w7.

I've looked at

http://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/h...using-bcdedit/

but since the lenovo will ignore the gparted, this doesn't help.

Ideas gratefully received...

M
 
Old 12-02-2012, 12:00 PM   #2
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Restarting with the dvd in the optical drive, the system just boots
into w7.
The first thing to do is to enter the BIOS setup during power-on. Set the boot order (the order in which devices are polled in search of a bootable OS) to search the optical and usb drives before the hard drive.

You will have to check the Lenovo documentation to learn which key(s) to press to enter the BIOS.
 
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:27 PM   #3
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I'm currently trying with

xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso

burnt onto a dvd.
That's a CD image, not a DVD image, and how are you burning it? What do you see on the disk when you open it up in Win7?
 
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:27 PM   #4
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You may find that a virtual machine is much easier and safer. Not sure I have seen any distro that can't work with a vm.

I suspect that the dvd may be on a sata connection and for some reason part of the boot process is not correctly assigning the disk correctly. Remember that live distro's are kind of a cheat to the system.
 
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:10 PM   #5
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Thanks everybody. In particular:

+ I thought bios had been removed from w7 but yes thanks bigrig, it is still there. The lenovo manual is 272 pages so took a while to find. I haven't made the change yet.

I also stumbled on how to change the length of time the list of os is up from 0 to 30 secs.

+ I only burnt onto a dvd because I'm out of blank cds. Didn't realize it would matter (hits forehead). In w7 I just see the file name. If I click in w7 the burn software starts up.

+ I like the idea of vm. I would prefer to keep w7 as a fallback. Do you mean the M$ virtual pc Jefro? I found this:

http://www.howtogeek.com/56158/begin...ng-virtual-pc/

I guess I've got complacent chugging along with U 11.04 for 18 months. This has been a big help.

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Old 12-02-2012, 01:54 PM   #6
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+ I only burnt onto a dvd because I'm out of blank cds. Didn't realize it would matter (hits forehead). In w7 I just see the file name. If I click in w7 the burn software starts up.
Wait, you mean when you open the DVD in Windows, the only thing there is the iso file?

You need to burn the ISO image to the disk, not stick the file itself on there. You can think of the .iso file as an archive (not unlike tar or zip) containing all of the files that need to be on the disk. Sticking the .iso file itself on the disk won't accomplish anything.

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+ I like the idea of vm. I would prefer to keep w7 as a fallback. Do you mean the M$ virtual pc Jefro? I found this:

http://www.howtogeek.com/56158/begin...ng-virtual-pc/
He's probably referring to something like VirtualBox or VMWare
 
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:19 PM   #7
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You need to burn the ISO image to the disk, not stick the file itself on there. You can think of the .iso file as an archive (not unlike tar or zip) containing all of the files that need to be on the disk. Sticking the .iso file itself on the disk won't accomplish anything.
I must be losing my grip. I should know that. Thanks

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He's probably referring to something like VirtualBox or VMWare
Yes, I'll try VirtualBox.

Thanks again.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 12:59 PM   #8
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" Originally Posted by suicidaleggroll View Post
He's probably referring to something like VirtualBox or VMWare"

Sorry, that is more correct. Thanks.

I don't have anything against VirtualPC but it doesn't have the features virtualbox or vmplayer/vmware has. There is a newer one out there that I forgot the name of. I'll try to find it.
 
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:28 PM   #9
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Yes, thanks, I'm experimenting with VirtualBox.
 
  


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