Installing linux on HP with windows 10 home.

Fred33435 · 05-13-2017, 01:19 PM

Can't install linux on HP with windows 10 home. Have 2 icons on startup 1 windows 1 Linux, Linux says proceed with install. Window comes up not installed. Changed to legacy in bios. Tried linux mint, universal installer, grub, Debain-install loader and partition the hard drive. Thanks

yancek · 05-13-2017, 02:12 PM

Is windows 10 pre-installed thus likely being UEFI/GPT? If so, then whatever Linux you try to install should be installed UEFI also or you will have problems booting. If windows is UEFI, don't change to Legacy in the BIOS. You need to determine this before doing anything else. You see two icons on startup of what?

It isn't really clear what you have done. First off, Linux Mint and Debian are different Linux operating systems, the universal usb installer is software you can use on windows to create a bootable Linux on a usb drive. Have you done that? Did you try booting the usb by setting it to first boot priority in the BIOS? If so, what happened. Grub is a bootloader only and should be included with Mint and Debian.

You should post more details on the specific steps you have taken and the results.

Fred33435 · 05-13-2017, 02:59 PM

I may not be clear, because a little new at this. It is uefi. I disable the legacy and enabled secure boot. Have change boot order, still goes into windows using bootable usb. Have a 9.1 disk from Linux it goes to, this is dangerous to your compute, does not have continue. On startup 2 windows, 1 is windows icon to go to windows. Second one says proceed to installing. Click on it, goes to, no operating system. Hope this clears some of this up. Thanks

AwesomeMachine · 05-13-2017, 05:00 PM

Don't use secure boot. Use legacy to boot the install media.

yancek · 05-13-2017, 06:05 PM

Some Linux systems may require you to disable secure boot, some not but it is usually better to have it disabled.

Have you tested the 'bootable' usb on another computer to verify that it is bootable?
You might investigate the boot options on the HP a little further because is the usb isn't booting, it probably isn't good or your changes are not being saved or are not the correct ones. More specifics on which HP you are using might enable someone to suggest something.

Fred33435 · 05-16-2017, 10:58 AM

Changed log on to administrator. Change to boot to Cd. Still boots to windows, with CD from Linux. Disable secure boot. Thanks for all the help.

Fred33435 · 06-24-2017, 02:47 PM

Have tried all suggestions, nothing works. If I remove windows and install linux will I be able to reinstall windows. Thanks

Soadyheid · 06-24-2017, 05:22 PM

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Can't install linux on HP with windows 10 home.

Could you share info on the HP model, they make quite a lot of kit and can change and upgrade features between models which may be relevant.

Then again, are you trying to dual boot or run Linux in a VM running on Windows 10?

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Have 2 icons on startup 1 windows 1 Linux

What have you booted to get these Icons???

More info required...

Play Bonny!

yancek · 06-24-2017, 05:59 PM

How do you access the BIOS on the HP? I just bought an HP notebook and you have about 2 seconds in which to presss the Esc key after which you have several options which include F10 for the BIOS and F9 to select a boot device and when you select that you should see the DVD device or usb device, whatever you are using. You can also make the change with F10 which should have both UEFI and Legacy boot options. If you don't have those option you will have to be more detailed in your explanation as there are countless different options depending upon the manufacaturer and motherbord and BIOS.

I'm not sure what you are referring to in you initial post about seeing two icons on startup. At what point do you see that? You should just see the HP logo before it starts to boot.

Also what is a '9.1' disk, is that the Debian? The name of the Linux distribution should show on screen when booting, in most cases anyhow.

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this is dangerous to your compute

The above quote would indicate that you may be booting and trying to install the old MBR method rather than UEFI which will result in serious problems for booting. Which Linux are you going to use. THey are definitely not all the same so you need to stick with one for now.

Where did you change logon to administrator? Is that in windows? That won't help.

On the particular HP I am using, I could not boot from a flash drive unless I disabled Secure boot which also automatically enabled Legacy boot and vice versa. Sounds like your system is different? Are you using a flash drive, DVD?

You could certainly 'remove' windows or install some Linux system over it but I don't see the point in that if you want to keep windows. Pick a specific Linux and post answers to the questions above and we'll go from there.

yancek · 06-24-2017, 06:00 PM

Duplicate post deleted??

Fred33435 · 07-01-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by yancek

How do you access the BIOS on the HP? I just bought an HP notebook and you have about 2 seconds in which to presss the Esc key after which you have several options which include F10 for the BIOS and F9 to select a boot device and when you select that you should see the DVD device or usb device, whatever you are using. You can also make the change with F10 which should have both UEFI and Legacy boot options. If you don't have those option you will have to be more detailed in your explanation as there are countless different options depending upon the manufacaturer and motherbord and BIOS.

I'm not sure what you are referring to in you initial post about seeing two icons on startup. At what point do you see that? You should just see the HP logo before it starts to boot.

Also what is a '9.1' disk, is that the Debian? The name of the Linux distribution should show on screen when booting, in most cases anyhow.

The above quote would indicate that you may be booting and trying to install the old MBR method rather than UEFI which will result in serious problems for booting. Which Linux are you going to use. THey are definitely not all the same so you need to stick with one for now.

Where did you change logon to administrator? Is that in windows? That won't help.

On the particular HP I am using, I could not boot from a flash drive unless I disabled Secure boot which also automatically enabled Legacy boot and vice versa. Sounds like your system is different? Are you using a flash drive, DVD?

You could certainly 'remove' windows or install some Linux system over it but I don't see the point in that if you want to keep windows. Pick a specific Linux and post answers to the questions above and we'll go from there.

I removed windows and put in linux with a boot disc 9.10. Now trying to upgrade to 17.04,downloaded it click install nothing happens. Downloaded 12.04. Doesn't show it in downloads. When to download 12.04 again and shows in that window it's downloaded. Click on it nothing happens. Can't make a bootable disc or USB, Download gives no option.
Thanks for you patients and all the help.

I removed windows and put in linux with a boot disc 9.10. Now trying to upgrade to 17.04,downloaded it click install nothing happens. Downloaded 12.04. Doesn't show it in downloads. When to download 12.04 again and shows in that window it's downloaded. Click on it nothing happens. Can't make a bootable disc or USB, Download gives no option.
Thanks for you patients and all the help.

AwesomeMachine · 07-01-2017, 01:48 PM

You probably can't make a bootable USB drive by clicking on the file in downloads. You actually have to use a program. We can guess which distro your talking about, but it's better to elaborate on 9.10, 12.04, etc. Linux distros have names, like Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, etc. Within those names there are version numbers. In other words, there is no such thing as Linux 9.10. There has to be more than that in the name.

yancek · 07-01-2017, 04:16 PM

If you are referring to Ubuntu 9.10, it hasn't been supported for years and even if you did get it installed it would be a very convoluted process to try to upgrade it to 17.04 and I really doubt if it would work. I believe support for 12.04 ended in April.

Did you actually download Ubuntu 9.10 and put it on a bootable media (DVD/flash drive) and install it to your hard drive?

If you actually have some operating system installed, there are a variety of methods to create a bootable media which can then be used to install the newer Linux so you will need to be more specific on the current status. As pointed out above, you cannot click on a downloaded iso file and install that way.

beachboy2 · 07-01-2017, 11:53 PM

Fred33435,

On a recent UEFI machine you should leave Secure Boot enabled and use UEFI mode, not Legacy.

Try this:
http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/201...alongside.html

Alternatively, look at this comprehensive guide:
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/d...-8-ubuntu.html

This article refers to Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 14.04, but the principle is exactly the same for Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04, Linux Mint 18.1 etc.

Fred33435 · 07-02-2017, 01:42 PM

I want to thank all of you for the help. I finally made a bootable disc of 17.04 And installed it . Had to remove windows because it stated not enough space, yet I have 1000 GB. Now trying to down load chrome. Using the deabian link. The 9.10 is Ubuntu. Seems the 17.04 does not let you download your own background picture. If anyone has the ansere please let me know. Than you all again for everything.