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Old 12-28-2013, 11:34 AM   #16
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That'll work. Gracies.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 01:29 PM   #17
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Me and my family are happy with our computer's Windows config, I just want to check out Linux just for fun. And besides, I like a challenge


Thanks. After I have it on the CD, how do I get it to the external drive? I boot from the CD, then what? That's the part I can't figure out.
Your question suggests you have not yet read the Arch Beginners' Guide, which describes in great detail "the part you can't figure out." Since you "like a challenge" I am sure you will enjoy the Arch documentation, which is written for the target audience of motivated DIY'ers.
 
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:37 PM   #18
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I agree with the people above who suggested it before: physically disconnect/remove any important hard drives.

Once you boot from the CD, it should be obvious how to install from there. But since I haven't tried it myself, I can't be sure of that.

If you took the right action and removed/disconnected the Win7 hard drive AND there are no other drives attached (except for the CD and floppy) the external hard drive will show up as "sda".
 
Old 12-29-2013, 12:06 PM   #19
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I agree with snowpine, "Use VirtualBox to experiment with Linux "inside of" Windows with zero risk" Or use vmplayer.

The questions you are asking make me think that the most conservative choice ought to be selected.
 
Old 12-29-2013, 05:52 PM   #20
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Your question suggests you have not yet read the Arch Beginners' Guide, which describes in great detail "the part you can't figure out." Since you "like a challenge" I am sure you will enjoy the Arch documentation, which is written for the target audience of motivated DIY'ers.
Lol thanks. It was recommended earlier I think! I'm reading it now.
and I must commend you on your well-worded response. Very pleasing to read lol.

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Once you boot from the CD, it should be obvious how to install from there. But since I haven't tried it myself, I can't be sure of that.
I haven't tried either. I like to read A LOT before doing anything major, like this. But you are right, it probably will be obvious.

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Old 12-29-2013, 09:06 PM   #21
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Not meaning to dfiscourage you archlinux is almost on thew level of difficulty of installing Gentoo & LFS it would be better to start with a distro that is simpler to install, such as Debian, Linuxmint, Ubuntu, Suse & a few others. Slackware is another choice which is a little bit harder than the above distro's but easier than arch gentoo & LFS. Once you have a working linux system then you can experiment with the other more difficult distro's by installing in VirtualBox.
The distro's in the first list are as easy as installing windows.

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Old 12-29-2013, 09:50 PM   #22
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Wow... Gentoo and LFS... I hadn't even seen those. I feel like trying them all just to see which one is more fun XD
 
Old 12-29-2013, 10:08 PM   #23
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I hope you have plenty of time to read
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
http://www.gentoo.org/
My Lfs was a partial success, system booted & ran, but system wasn't optimized.
Gentoo system never booted.

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Old 12-29-2013, 10:15 PM   #24
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I hope you have plenty of time to read
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
http://www.gentoo.org/
My Lfs was a partial success, system booted & ran, but system wasn't optimized.
Gentoo system never booted.
Wow.

I love linux already and I've never even used it.

This seems like something I could start a whole other thread for... but what's the difference between Gentoo/LFS? Are they one of those basically-the-same-thing-the-one-I-pick-is-a-matter-of-preference sort of thing? Could Arch be considered a good introduction to one or the other?

So many questions. I should probably have read the links before asking all that stuff lol.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 10:58 AM   #25
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Gentoo linux is a sort of build step by step. They have expanded it to be more user friendly to build an exact to your needs system. It also includes a more easy way to maintain.

LFS is the way the very old timers like I had to make a system. It is a complete book to build from scratch. I mean from scratch. It is like Mt. Fuji to me. You climb it once. It is the very nuts and bolts of linux and every step needed to learn the basics.

You may not need to know all that but worth it for many of the people here.


Other folks can do fine with some of the choices one might find at distrowatch.com.
 
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:58 AM   #26
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You can try linux out on a live optical disc. You can also use stuff like easy2boot to boot cd iso's from a usb stick. And other getting started options. Most post-2006 machines support booting usb directly via some hotkey at boot time. Although newer machines with uefi might prove more difficult to use.

http://positon.org/tag/Easy2Boot
http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/7...maintain/e2bv1


If you want to be safe, physically disconnect the old drive when you go to install your first linux. Or do the install on an old or alternative machine. Linux runs happily on most storage mediums. Just make sure /etc/fstab represents where it's located and the bootloader has an option to boot it to make it easier. You can migrate a linux install location and only need to change the /etc/fstab and bootloader to know it's new location.


I tend to use this method or variants of it, but I install linux while in linux.

http://www.debian.org/releases/stabl...apds03.html.en

It lacks a few admin steps (like setting a root password), but gets you a bootable linux if you're familiar with linux already. The advantage for me is that I can set it up in my /home/ folder and migrate it to a USB stick. And since I can chroot to the install before the migration, I can apt-get install the wireless tools and drivers before migrating it. Dozens of ways to get there from here. But this way ensures that I know what's getting touched when, so no surprises.
 
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:31 AM   #27
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Alright I got it installed yesterday. I had to partition my hard drive first with gparted, then disabled my internal in BIOS. Booted from arch install disk and mounted to /dev/sdb. My computer still boots windows, so looks like I did it right
 
  


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