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Old 08-01-2008, 01:47 PM   #16
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I'm afraid that I'm now totally and completely confused .
What's the most newbie-friendly way?
I have no experience with editing any of this stuff (grub, mbr, etc.).

And another question: does all the stuff https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/install...ios-setup.html here apply? Will the settings affect my Windows installation?

Also, is there a way to verify my download to make sure it's intact? I heard about MD5 or something but haven't seen it anywhere on the Ubuntu website.

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Old 08-01-2008, 04:55 PM   #17
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Here's a link describing dual booting xp/Ubuntu w/xp installed first. There are several other links with different ways to dual boot. Lots of screenshots and should be easy to follow:

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_w...lled_first.htm
 
Old 08-01-2008, 06:01 PM   #18
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Thing is I'm putting Linux on a separate hard drive, and that's where the trouble comes...
 
Old 08-01-2008, 06:37 PM   #19
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Can I make a suggestion. Since you have Windows on a separate drive, anything you do on the second drive won't do anything to Windows. Therefore, why don't you go through the installation process on the second drive and see how it goes.

At the very worst, you will have to select the OS to boot through the bios (most computers allow you to hit a key to select boot device on startup), but one you have Ubuntu installed, we can talk you through the whole grub thing.

My suggested partitioning setuo would be (assuning 250G drive)

100M for grub (you don't need this, but it can make life easier later)
15GB to allocate to /
1G top allocate to swap (I expect Ubuntu will require a swap partition)
200G to allocate to /home
34G (or thereabouts) left unused for later use.

Note that on most PCs you can only have 4 primary partitions, but more (not sure of the limitations) logical partitions within an extended partition (have I lost you yet?). Therefore, I'd create a an extended partition and create the layout above as logical partitions withing that extended partition.

To be honest, the easiest way to do the partitioning would be to download one of the specialist live CD's like gparted or parted magic. You can get these from www.distrowatch.com . They have good graphical interfaces that are pretty easy to follow, and I find them better than the partitioning tools supplied with installation disks. You can then just allocate the relevant partitions.

It sounds daunting but it's not that bad, and we'll help you through it. Here are some docs for you to look at

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/herm...n_partitioning

This shows the install process

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall

When you get to the stage that say "Select a Disk", make sure you select your second drive, then the option to manually edit the partition table

Give it a go, and let us know how it progresses.
 
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I agree with billymayday. Just install your Ubuntu on the second drive. Make sure you know which is the second drive. You could run the fdisk -l again to see which has the ntfs and which has the ext3 for opensuse. I would also suggest you use gparted or Parted Magic to partition your drive before the installation. Then set your computer to boot from CD, put your Ubuntu CD in the drive and go.

The important thing is knowing what partitions have data on before you install so you don't overwrite something you need. This is important and although it may be safer to disconnect your xp drive, if you do this the xp partition will not be detected by Grub and you will need to do a manual edit. Not really a big problems, but...

Good Luck!
 
Old 08-01-2008, 07:04 PM   #21
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He'll need to do a manual edit anyway - I've never seen an installer that does the mapping for dual drives
 
Old 08-01-2008, 10:12 PM   #22
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I've never seen an installer that does the mapping for dual drives
Good point, neither have I.
 
Old 08-01-2008, 10:20 PM   #23
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Great, I'll try as soon as I can (probably tomorrow).
Thanks! I'll keep this posted with how it goes. =)
 
Old 08-01-2008, 11:32 PM   #24
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Post away if you get stuck. You'll get there just fine
 
  


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