Installing Konqueror Web Browser on Gnome

kbjaeh · 03-11-2011, 12:53 PM

Hello,

I am new to linux and don't know much about it. I am currently taking a on-line class on it and seem to get stuck from time to time. I have been trying to install Konqueror on my systems. I have installed the KDEBASE3-3.5.10. However nothing shows up on my menus in GNOME. According to what I have read you can use this program on either of the GUI's.

Not sure what details are needed, but below are some.
1) Quad core AMD Processor
2) Fedora 13
3) Kernel Linux 2.6.33.3-85.fc13.i686
4) Using Gnome GUI.

Any help you can give would be great.

Thanks

comp_brad1136 · 03-11-2011, 01:11 PM

konqurer may not have updated in gnomes menu's. This sometimes happens. What you can do, is open a console and type in konqueror & to see if the program starts.

( the extra & makes it so you can close the terminal window after your start konq )

corp769 · 03-11-2011, 01:13 PM

From the terminal:

Code:

yum install kdebase *konqueror*

corp769 · 03-11-2011, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp_brad1136

konqurer may not have updated in gnomes menu's. This sometimes happens. What you can do, is open a console and type in konqueror & to see if the program starts.

( the extra & makes it so you can close the terminal window after your start konq )

You could also use nohup

arizonagroovejet · 03-11-2011, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp_brad1136

( the extra & makes it so you can close the terminal window after your start konq )

No it doesn't. The & will put konqueror in to the background. If you close the terminal window, konqueror will also be closed. To be able to close the terminal window you need to use

Code:

$ konqueror & disown

comp_brad1136 · 03-11-2011, 01:53 PM

you are right on the disown part. My bad.

corp769 · 03-11-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

-- I would rtfm if the fm was in english!

Sorry to be off subject a tad here, but I like that.... LOL

theKbStockpiler · 03-11-2011, 06:11 PM

yum install kate(enter)

Kate ,Kwrite ,Konqueror and some others also came with it.

kbjaeh · 03-12-2011, 11:04 AM

Thanks for the help guys. I was able to get the program running. I try to open from Terminal as was suggested, however it did nothing. I then used the "yum install kdebase *konqueror*" This install the program and added it to the menu selection in the GUI. However there are a few outstanding questions on why this worked. If you have time I would like to understand the answers to the questions.

1) I assume that the command "yum install kdebase *Konqueror*" Is telling the OS to install the program Konqueror within the files of kdebase. Is this correct?

2) When I entered the above command, How did it know where the file was in the directory? (In dos you have to be in the correct directory where the file is to anything with it.)

3) When you down load a program from the internet it comes in a come in a .tar.bz2, I assume that this is the same as a zip file in windows? Then how do you know what files to run to install the program? (in dos it was always a .bat or .exe)

I once again thank you for the help you provided me.

corp769 · 03-12-2011, 11:23 AM

This is linux. Running yum installs programs, in RPM format, from the repositories online, which is on the fedora servers. The answer to your first question is simple enough - It is saying to install kdebase, and everything with the word konqueror inside of it. I already answered your first question, and as far as your third question, it depends what format the file(s) are in. You can still use zip in linux, but tar is the most used format. Gz and bz and forms of compressions.

Cheers,

Josh

theKbStockpiler · 03-12-2011, 09:26 PM

Generally you just type (yum install application_name). If you want gedit you type as su (yum install gedit) Yum will take care of everything if it has the right repositories and the package is available.

This is not perfect explanation but it will help connect everything.

Types of Application files ( how you receive programs)

Source file: Comes in a Tarfile. This is the language the programmer uses in a file that has not been compiled and turned in to something that can execute (run) yet. If the computer architecture is not the same as the one that it was writen on the application will not work. Linux has something called (AutoTools) That is meant (tries) to compile the source code to run on the intended computer. These are not compiled and ready to run before you get it.

Source RPM file: This is a RPM file that also has the source code included with it. These can be as ready to install as a RPM file. These are compiled into a binary before you get it plus the source code. The purpose of these is not really clear.

RPM file : These are like a windows executable that the vendor (Maybe Fedora) has compiled to work on a particular Linux O.S. RedHat invented them ,Mandriva ,Fedora and Suse also use this type of file. Ubuntu uses their own home grown version but it does not share the same name and is not compatable with a RPM style file. Fedora is a community Redhat Distribution (free). These are compiled into a binary before you get it.

Executive file (Windows style ) This has an installer application with it and is specifically made for a M$ computer. The installer will check for dependencies like Linux does. Any Application compiled into binary code it is really a form of an executive file so compiled Linux files are also an executive file.

Unless you are experienced , desperate, bored or a genius always use your package manager or use RPM files. Your Package Manager will take care of dependencies for you which might be twenty files or so. It can be a real SOB to install an application with a lot of dependencies without your Package Manage in this case Yum. Yum also has a GUI (menu/mouse version/front-end) but on my 13 it is not always reliable. Go to System> Administration> Add-Remove-Software>. I think there is a GUI method to add repositories there.

If you have to install with Source files ( and a Bash command named "Make")but it does not work you will be out in the lurch. Then you have to dig into AutoTool documentation which is as bad as it gets.

This is not a perfect explanation but is capable to get you where you want to go as a user.

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