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Old 03-08-2009, 11:37 AM   #1
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installing gimpshop, downloaded from site, but uncomfortable with manual install...


so i'm looking for alternative methods, before i dive into that.

One problem is, it looks like its using an older version of gimp. the Version i have in my ubuntu install is 2.6, the documentation for the gimpshop install is 2.2, so that worries me.

I've tried finding the packages in: add/remove programs from the applications tab. Was not able to locate it there. Weny to the Synaptic package installer, under administration, no luck there. Searched just for "gimp" and i got hits, but nothing for gimpshop as far as addons or anything of that nature.

I can make do with the gimp interface,i suppose, but i'm much more comfortable with the photoshop layout (which is what gimpshop reproduces) so i may just adjust instead of trying to do a manual install.
 
Old 03-08-2009, 12:02 PM   #2
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I checked their website and there's a debian package that you can download so... no problem. Just download the package and install it using the command
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sudo dpkg -i [name of package you downloaded]
on the command line. That's no big deal. If you don't like it you can always remove it. There's no reason to feel uncomfortable with a manual install. Most adults do it sooner or later (in the privacy of their own home, of course ).
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Old 03-08-2009, 12:20 PM   #3
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dag nab it, im blind... i stopped reading at "for linux users and other people that dont mind getting their hands dirty..." le sigh, thanks for the help... should i be concerned though that (according to the source documents atleast) it looks like its a number of versions behind the base gimp platform?
 
Old 03-08-2009, 01:47 PM   #4
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dag nab it, im blind... i stopped reading at "for linux users and other people that dont mind getting their hands dirty..." le sigh, thanks for the help... should i be concerned though that (according to the source documents atleast) it looks like its a number of versions behind the base gimp platform?
I can't see what harm it can do? Just make sure to back all your work up before you try it and then you're protected. If gimpshop is not what you want/need then get rid of it. No harm, no foul.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:01 PM   #5
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I thought that "gimpshop" died a slow and long death . I never did like that thing .
and the new gegl in gimp 2.6.5 ( 2.6.?) is very nice .
 
Old 03-09-2009, 01:59 AM   #6
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I thought that "gimpshop" died a slow and long death . I never did like that thing .
and the new gegl in gimp 2.6.5 ( 2.6.?) is very nice .
Hi John,
The OP said he liked the interface (more like Photoshop, I think)
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:23 PM   #7
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right, that iwas what i liked more... but it doesnt seem to replicate it as much as they claimed... i need to find a way to NOT have a million different open "windows" at once. makes me kinda miss how windows was handling things with like things piled on each other.. or atleast having all of one apps windows locked inside of itself
 
Old 03-11-2009, 02:17 AM   #8
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what do you mean by a million this is a screenshot of my standard working gimp
http://www.imagebam.com/image/c808e729276578
and with the layers dialog window open
http://www.imagebam.com/image/554ef329276621
 
Old 03-11-2009, 09:35 AM   #9
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with mine, every dockable window you open, creates a new tab on my... "linux bar" it maybe a distro specific issue though, since i see you're using fedora.
 
Old 03-11-2009, 10:21 AM   #10
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It may be the way you set it up (or how it defaults). I'm using Debian (which ought to be somewhat similiar to Ubuntu) and I only get one open window unless I specifically want/need more. Mine looks pretty much the same as John's.
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:49 PM   #11
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try this . In your home folder rename .gimp-2.6 to .gimp-2.6-orig
then restart gimp
you will have a few windows open
close the layer window See: below
http://www.imagebam.com/image/01616029341706
then restart gimp and everything will be on the main gimp window
as in the previous post shows
 
Old 03-11-2009, 11:05 PM   #12
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do you mean rename, or copy the .gimp2.6? because i renamed it, and now gimp wont run, it just gives me the spinning thing for maybe 30 seconds, and then exits "starting gimp"
 
Old 03-12-2009, 02:50 AM   #13
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gimp and gimp-shop will install into /usr/bin ( or /usr/local/bin )
AND make a folder in your home directory called .gimp-?.? ( .gimp-2.6 )

when the ~/.gimp ( /usr/home/'your-name'/.gimp-2.6 )folder is not there gimp will MAKE a new folder ( with the default settings ) just as it dose when you FIRST install it

Quote:
do you mean rename, or copy the .gimp2.6? because i renamed it, and now gimp wont run, it just gives me the spinning thing for maybe 30 seconds, and then exits "starting gimp"
rename it
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cd ~
mv .gimp* .gimp-old
?? How did you install it ? (gimp and/or gimp-shop )
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with mine, every dockable window you open, creates a new tab on my... "linux bar" it maybe a distro specific issue though, since i see you're using fedora.
This IS NOT normal behavior for gimp

5 windows and 1 tab on the bottom tool bar
http://www.imagebam.com/image/248fae29396662

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Old 03-12-2009, 08:49 AM   #14
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Gimp i believe was installed with my distro of ubuntu. gimpshop i believe i downloaded a ubuntu package and installed from there. I'm going to go ahead and uninstall both, and re-install just gimpshop, and see if that fixes anything.

Heres a picture of what my bar looks like when i have miltiple tools open

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/v...impdesktop.png

edit to add:While i was looking to see if anyone else had taken up this project, i found this comment on cnet:

"Cons: As in regular GIMP, the multiple Windows for Tools, Layers and Workspace can be cumbersome as you can only use one window at a time. There is a plugin to remedy this, but if you are comfortable with using plugins, it can be a hassle."

could it be this plug in that im missing that is causing so much confusion?

At this point, i think im going to stick with gimp, since it's still being actively developed, while it looks like gimpshop is no longer being worked on. I'm now going to do a fresh install of gimp and see if the behavior is any different.

edit 2: and the completely re-installed from synaptic screenshot:
http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/v...07/newgimp.png

Last edited by akuthia; 03-12-2009 at 09:12 AM. Reason: adding info
 
Old 03-12-2009, 01:24 PM   #15
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ubuntu then is doing something VERY screwy .
from your screenshot try this
open gimp then CLOSE one tool window at a time
first the "fonts" on the left
then the "paint brush ( mid upperof the screen)
then the " layers" ( lower right )
so that ALL that is left is the " drag and drop" window in the middle ) and the MAIN gimp tool box
just these two windows left open . then close the gimp toolbox .re start gimp . you should have only the two windows like in my screenshots .

PS i build gimp and it's dependencies from the source , i don't use a rpm or deb to install it.

------------ EDIT ------------
i think i know what is doing this ( just took a smoke break )
you are using Gnome AND it ( gnome) is set to open a NEW window for EVERYTHING
start nautilus ( file browser ) and from the " edit/preferences " click on the "behavior "
tab and put a check in the " Always open in browser windows"
restart nautilus then start gimp ( by double clicking on a photo ) .' gimp-remote' should have been installed from the package manager, as part of gimp.

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