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Old 03-16-2005, 10:46 PM   #1
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Installing GIMP in Gentoo?


Another Newbie question:

What might the series of steps be
to install the photo editing program (GIMP?)
into Gentoo Linux starting from the GUI?

Do you use the Portage system?

are there two ways to do it?
 
Old 03-16-2005, 11:03 PM   #2
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1. Open a console.
2. Perform "emerge gimp".

Should take care of it for you. There are many GUI tools available for portage, but I don't use any, so I can't reccomend that to/for you.
 
Old 03-16-2005, 11:21 PM   #3
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Also, step 1.5: become root (su - root, enter password)
 
Old 03-16-2005, 11:45 PM   #4
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Oops, indeed. Forgot that 1.5
 
Old 03-17-2005, 01:27 PM   #5
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Amazing! Thanks it worked!

Awesome. No errors! No problem. It took a while,
but the program seems to be fully installed, functional and stable.

Thank you very much. Now I will have to learn how to use it!
I wonder if there are any tutorials around on GiMP...
 
Old 03-17-2005, 04:16 PM   #6
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Official GIMP Tutorials
Google Goodness

The compile times are well worth the wait.
 
Old 03-17-2005, 05:10 PM   #7
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Re: Amazing! Thanks it worked!

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Originally posted by penguinlnx
Awesome. No errors! No problem. It took a while,
but the program seems to be fully installed, functional and stable.

Thank you very much. Now I will have to learn how to use it!
I wonder if there are any tutorials around on GiMP...
i have to say i'm pretty confused now. you managed to install gentoo ok, somethign many (mistakenly imho) regard as really difficult, yet don't know portage exists??
 
Old 03-17-2005, 05:25 PM   #8
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acid_kewpie: The gentoo handbook is like the recipe to gentoo. Portage is just an open grocery store.
 
Old 03-17-2005, 05:39 PM   #9
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Painless Gentoo install for dummies:

I spent two days trying to do a stage 3 install from the Universal iso...
by the way, the Gentoo manuals are *NOT* clear, thorough, or accurate.
There were plenty of command line ommissions and failures to specify
what directory or chroot to execute commands from, as well as incomplete descriptions of steps,
and incorrect or incoherent order of operations...
**perhaps** a seasoned Linux Administrator could autocorrect and install it....filling in the gaps.
But any sane person would just buy a handgun and hunt down the document proofers.
But even pros couldn't install Gentoo from the CDs
without a foolproof automatically detected DSL internet connection and a 2 day emerge.

I strongly suspect many a "Gentoo installer", like me,
simply discovered the single-CD AUTOINSTALL from VLos,
(which automatically takes you to a running OS with Gnome beckoning...)
and KEPT Quiet about it, in order to impress their friends.
Luckily my friends are all dead, so I don't have to impress them.
Okay rant over...

As for Portage...when it works its amazing, but I still can't grasp the
"intuitive GUI interface".... Anyone who thinks programmers can write manuals
at this late date has been reading "DOS 3.3 for Dummies".

I still don't know if I will ever get my i450 photoprinter to work thru LInux,
(it works seamlessly with Photoshop thru Windows luckily...)
since I can't even get my Brother B&W laser printer going, to print out Linux notes.
 
Old 03-17-2005, 05:46 PM   #10
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Porthole is quite a nice portage gui.
Code:
emerge porthole
(Not forgetting rule 1.5 )
 
Old 03-17-2005, 05:49 PM   #11
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I guess it depends. I've done stage 1 installs on 4 different machines, never once did I find a hiccup. Maybe I was lucky. Maybe I had enough linux experience. *SHRUG* I do admit that gentoo could use a nice installer, but once it's running, it's pretty sweet.
 
Old 03-17-2005, 09:11 PM   #12
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Re: Painless Gentoo install for dummies:

Quote:
Originally posted by penguinlnx
I spent two days trying to do a stage 3 install from the Universal iso...
by the way, the Gentoo manuals are *NOT* clear, thorough, or accurate.
There were plenty of command line ommissions and failures to specify
what directory or chroot to execute commands from, as well as incomplete descriptions of steps,
and incorrect or incoherent order of operations...
**perhaps** a seasoned Linux Administrator could autocorrect and install it....filling in the gaps.
But any sane person would just buy a handgun and hunt down the document proofers.
But even pros couldn't install Gentoo from the CDs
without a foolproof automatically detected DSL internet connection and a 2 day emerge.

-----%<-----
Erm, I'd have to disagree with that bigtime!

I'm no kind of "techie", having only really had experience of installing/running Mandrake which does virtually everything for you, but with the handbook, desktop howto and the 2 disc's, it took me only about 1 1/2 hours to get gentoo fully installed, up and running with both kde and gnome. Oh and I had to install grub for the first time as well (mandrake used lilo).

the hand book, well all I did was follow the instructions exactly as "they" laid them out, I only had to change the names of devices to reflect my system.

It could be that your hardware is "different" in some way, but having spent the last 2 1/2 years bitching about the quality of linux docs in general, I can say from experience that the gentoo handbook is one of the best out there - they seem to have made considerable efforts to make it, at least readable.

Try decyphering most "man pages", and see how far you get! Ha, I got as far as threatening my monitor with a hammer!

Oh, and most of the "Pro's" that have used gentoo that I've spoken too (at my LUG - one of whom is a former gentoo developer), took a minimum of 3 days, not because of download times, but the compiles/bootstraps etc etc are a killer from stage 1.


Have you had a look here ? Try and read some of the "answers". Personally I've found that they often create even more questions.

Ok, I'm off back to the corner of the "classroom" with "dunces cap" firmly in place

Good luck.

regards

John
 
Old 03-18-2005, 05:46 AM   #13
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LOL! many similar experiences with computers....

>>I can say from experience that the gentoo handbook is one of the best out there -
>> they seem to have made considerable efforts to make it, at least readable.

You are probably right. And grousing is all relative. I am not ungrateful for anyone's efforts,
when they are after all at the head of the class. It's more practical to bump up everybody's marks if the whole class has failed to clear the bar.

Reminds me of a joke: Q. "How would describe the worst blowjob you've ever had?"

............................................A. "...fantastic."

And yes, the choking slowness of the compiletimes is impossible to exaggerate!
There's a project for an efficiency expert..... its going to take a while for me to catch up
with others who have been grousing for years.

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Old 03-18-2005, 06:21 AM   #14
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Re: LOL! many similar experiences with computers....

Quote:
Originally posted by penguinlnx
>>I can say from experience that the gentoo handbook is one of the best out there -
>> they seem to have made considerable efforts to make it, at least readable.

You are probably right. And grousing is all relative. I am not ungrateful for anyone's efforts,
when they are after all at the head of the class. It's more practical to bump up everybody's marks if the whole class has failed to clear the bar.

Reminds me of a joke: Q. "How would describe the worst blowjob you've ever had?"

............................................A. "...fantastic."

And yes, the choking slowness of the compiletimes is impossible to exaggerate!
There's a project for an efficiency expert..... its going to take a while for me to catch up
with others who have been grousing for years.
Well done my friend, perspective is a wonderful thing (nearly as good as foresight)!

as for playing "catch up", well, some of my most enjoyable "rants" have been in regard to documentation (lets face it, just because "they" are developing, and probably on a technological "higher plane" than the rest of us, It has to be US that remind THEM that WE can't just go to the Mall/Supermarket and buy a couple of kilo's of "prior knowledge" to sprinkle on our breakfast cereals etc etc etc etc - you get the picture).

It's also my experience that when you do have a "Rant", it's often better to indicate it in the text of your post, because it would appear that otherwise you'd suffer from lots of "stop your f*****g whining" type replies, whereas if you make it clear that you're just getting an annoyance off you chest, then you'd often get lots of "Yup, I quite agree, but have you tried XXXXX like this"?


Those, I've found, are often the most helpful replies - but often lead to bruising to the forehead as you head-butt your computer with cries of "Doh"!

Seriously though, LQ has become the best single resource for me, and while there are many other places prepared to help, the broad based idea of "everything Linux" found here makes LQ incomparable.

In fact, all I need right now from LQ (apart from pointers in how to stop my gentoo install trying to downgrade my opera from 8.00_beta2 to 7.54-r3) is instructions on how I should go about:

a) Giving up smoking

b) Winning the National lottery

c) Growing hair (either pulled out or fell out years ago)

d) Loosing weight

e) Eating large portions of "pie in the sky"

f) etc etc etc

Aren't dreams marvelous ?

regards

John

p.s. Oh and if you get any tips on how to get the latest version of the gimp installed (2.2.1 I believe) you can send 'em along - the portage tree (stable) seems stuck on 2.0.4 at the mo!

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Old 03-18-2005, 11:55 AM   #15
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Don't know what Gentoo handbook anyone else read but I found it to be complete and accurate without any missing steps, commands, or anything else. The installation process was very well documented step by step from stage1 all thye way through to booting into the shiny new system.

Any with basic reading comprehension skills and the ability to follow directions can install Gentoo from a stage1 or stage2.
 
  


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