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Old 02-07-2016, 02:26 PM   #31
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What version is it?
debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso
 
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:21 PM   #32
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debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso
Ok, so it seems I have 2 options:

1. dd debian jessie .iso file onto USB. Change BIOS to boot from USB. Then the debian installer will appear to install jessie onto a target partition.

2. dd debian jessie 'live' onto usb. Change BIOS to boot from USB. Download full jessie .iso file via Iceweasel (my USB is 64gb). Then use the 'debian installer' icon to install jessie .iso file onto a target partition.

Is this correct?

In which case, I will obviously go with option 2.
 
Old 02-07-2016, 09:33 PM   #33
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Is this correct?
no
both installers do the same thing, install debian to a partition on the hard drive which is different from running debian live from a usb stick. The debian jessie .iso is just the installer without the desktop that the live iso boots to

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Old 02-07-2016, 10:08 PM   #34
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install debian to a partition on the hard drive
How do I do this?
I can download a debian .iso file to a partition. But how do I 'install' debian to a partition?
 
Old 02-08-2016, 05:51 AM   #35
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How do I do this?
I can download a debian .iso file to a partition. But how do I 'install' debian to a partition?
a partition is just an aera on your hard drive,
if you chouse to download another iso for Debain debian-8.3.0-i386-DVD-1.iso -- you'll only need the first DVD-1 that is enough to get it installed, and running.

but you already have your live iso v8xx so why over kill the proccess?

try not to let the jargon confuse you.

Partiton: - the action or state of dividing or being divided into parts.

use your USB Stick to install Debian onto one of your partitions on your hard drive. the only other thing you really need to plan is how are you going to split up your system OR are you going to keep it all installed into one tree trunk?

swap
/

vs

swap
/
/home

for most users that is all one needs to worry about. The second one will need two paritions, one tree per partition. the /home is grafted (sym linked) into the other tree off of / (root)

the major benefits to setting it up like this is. It seperates all of your personall files - just incase you have to re-install the system you will not lose your personall files, because all you'll have to do is install your system back into just /

then when you recreate your user using the exact same user name that is already there it will link your /home/user back into the / (root) then your back in business.

along with:

if you decised to change distro's you can still keep all of your personal files, all you may have to do is wipe, BACK UP all of your .x files, etc .xinitrc, .xprofile etc ...

so that when the different distro installs and creates it's own .x files for the user account, you'll not mess it up by allowing it to use its own .x files, then if you have any customizations within your .x files all you'll have to do is transfer them into the other .x files accordingly.

by either writing them in, copy paste, or mv -f .xprofile .xprofile over writting the new with the old to replace it. all depending on what differences are between the two files.

of course that is all furture reference knowleadge

how do I 'install' debian to a partition?

just follow the prompts...

go manual to partition the hard drive yourself, or let the install program do it for you, fall back is that it will decided what sizes the partitions will be, but to the good, you can still change the sizes, and seeing how it is doing this may help you to understand just to set it up so that you can do it using the sizes for the partitions that you yourself want. over riding the install program ideal partition sizes.

just do not make the / (root) partition smaller then it suggests, bigger is ok, just not smaller. Nothing will be commted to the hard drive until you tell it too, then, still you can change it again if you want to. Just delete and start over.

it is only when you fully commit to it, by going to the next step which is install the system now, that you'll have to shut it down then start over if you just happen to change your mind.

just be carefull how you do that, because it can be done.

the computer is only as smart as the person using it.

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Old 02-08-2016, 06:47 AM   #36
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no
both installers do the same thing, install debian to a partition on the hard drive which is different from running debian live from a usb stick. The debian jessie .iso is just the installer without the desktop that the live iso boots to
that is a confusing statment:
Debian has three types iso's
  1. Debian IOS types
  2. one is a live iso that you can install Debian into your hard drive with the same desktop that the live iso has. Index of /debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid
  3. one is a DVD size iso comprising of the entire debian repo, BUT only the first DVD iso is needed to install debian
  4. one is a net install of Debian without xorg, xterm, just giving you a console to work off of, having to connect to the internet using the console to install other items. it is simular to using it as a server install.

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Old 02-08-2016, 07:18 AM   #37
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I was trying to get across that the prompts are the same during the install regardless of which iso is used for the dvd/usb. The main difference is whether or not the installed packages are pulled from the Dvd/usb are from the internet. During the partitioning the installer does give the option to let the installer do the partitioning or manual mode to let the op do the partitioning. In this case manual mode will most likely be the better choice if the op already has a partition set up on the hard drive that they want to install to.

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Old 02-08-2016, 07:33 AM   #38
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I also have a 1TB sata hd with Win7 and one other debian OS on it which is hardly used.
What version of debian is this and how was it installed?
 
Old 02-08-2016, 07:48 AM   #39
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I was trying to get across that the prompts are the same during the install regardless of which iso is used for the dvd/usb. The main difference is whether or not the installed packages are pulled from the Dvd/usb are from the internet.
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During the partitioning the installer does give the option to let the installer do the partitioning or manual mode to let the op do the partitioning. In this case manual mode will most likely be the better choice if the op already has a partition set up on the hard drive that they want to install to.
not necessarily, because manual is the user creating Partitions for the system to use. afaik it can be a raw hd. In Vbox you always start out with a raw hd.

if you are dual booting then yes, by all means have that seperate partition for the (new) linux OS to use, but still it does not have to be set completely up in seperate partitons for swap, root, and/or home paritions, that can be done during the install process.

it is 6 one way and half a dozzen the other, but, say if you are installing Slackware, then yes one does use fdisk or cfdisk to set up the partitions prior to running setup, but Debian and like have this setup in the install process, that is what it is actually doing, setting up the partitons, when you get to that spot in the install process having your partitons already set then it just looks at them and you still have to tell it what do to with them, format (ext3, ext4 etc..) and what mount they are to be, etc... in the same spot that it uses for one to set up the partitons, you could in fact change them to somthing else during that step.

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Old 02-08-2016, 08:03 AM   #40
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Your options are pretty much:
1) Use the Live ISO and once booted up, click on "Install Debian" (no downloading necessary), then follow the prompts to install, or
2) Download the DVD, write to the stick, boot, and follow the prompts to install.

Either way, Debian will then be installed on your hard drive.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:07 AM   #41
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I think you can put a fork in this thread. Because He is done.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...al-4175571638/

Unless we are talking multiple computers with trying multiple install options here.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:16 AM   #42
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I think you can put a fork in this thread. Because He is done.
DONE? ---> Mark --> failed too mark solved <---
 
Old 02-08-2016, 11:48 AM   #43
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but you already have your live iso v8xx so why over kill the proccess?
I don't have a live debian 8 USB yet.
I currently have a live debian 7 USB but it doesn't have a debian installer.
So I'm going remove debian 7 and add debian 8 onto the live USB. Once done, I'm hoping to see something called the 'debian installer' when I boot from the USB. I'll then be able to install an OS onto my hard drive.

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the major benefits to setting it up like this is. It seperates all of your personall files - just incase you have to re-install the system you will not lose your personall files, because all you'll have to do is install your system back into just /
Yes, I think I'll create a setup where the home directory is in a different partition. A small swap partition will also be needed.

Is it possible to have 2 seperate OSs which mount the same home directory which is in a different partition?
 
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What version of debian is this and how was it installed?
It was initially debian Wheezy. I installed it using debootstrap with my live debian USB. The debian 7 live USB does not have a debian installer.

I've since done a dist-upgrade and the OS is now Jessie.
 
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Your options are pretty much:
1) Use the Live ISO and once booted up, click on "Install Debian" (no downloading necessary), then follow the prompts to install, or
2) Download the DVD, write to the stick, boot, and follow the prompts to install.

Either way, Debian will then be installed on your hard drive.
Thank you. I will be going with option 1.
 
  


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