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Old 12-06-2003, 10:08 PM   #16
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hmm


this time it wrote the config to file but then when i started x same old error EE no screen found i give lol don't know what else to do i have re-installed 3 times nothing fixes it it wont recognize i have any hardware there
 
Old 12-06-2003, 10:13 PM   #17
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what does typing 'lspci' give you?


lspci will give u a description of the hardware on your machine, and you should see your monitor/graphic card listed.

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Old 12-06-2003, 10:15 PM   #18
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are you saying that in between every posting here, you are re-installing linux on the machine (i hope not)?
 
Old 12-06-2003, 11:14 PM   #19
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quick heads up for you on this one. I had the same card (ATI 9800 Radeon) and I got the no screen error if I try to :
1. Use dri with the Xfree driver and not the ATI driver.
2. Try to start X at a high screen res (like 1600x1200) with 24 bit color enabled
3. If I use the "generic ati driver" instead of the "generic ati radeon driver".

If I remember right, I had to use generic ati radeon, 1024x768, default 16 bit color until I got the ATI driver to work.

BTW good work and you're showing an extreme level of paitence you must have children
 
Old 12-06-2003, 11:24 PM   #20
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ahh yes, dri (and GLcore). i remember from the nvidia site not to enable it while using those drivers. but its supposed to be fine if you;re using "vesa". as for screen res - im still waiting for eliza to post the xf86-config. im assuming that 1600x1200 isnt all that she has in the list. X usually goes thro all resolutions before deciding on one that is possible. same goes for 24-bit color. need to see xf86-config.

im not married, im single (and broke, hence single). got nothing to do with patience man (which is highly overrated).

and im sure the ones with kids wouldnt be able to post for so long. haha

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Old 12-06-2003, 11:25 PM   #21
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since you share similar hardware, can you post the part of xf86-config that is used for the monitor, and she can edit hers accordingly?
 
Old 12-06-2003, 11:34 PM   #22
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coud it be that she doesnt have the driver installed (in which case she can try with "vesa" b4 installing ati drivers)? is ati proprietary like nvidia (we have to download and install from the nvidia site).
 
Old 12-06-2003, 11:50 PM   #23
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oh no its me again

Just a quick update before i try this generic ati ddriver and 16 bit color..i tried the vesa driver it actually wrote this time! wow i was so happy then back to original error i flipped --no screen detected I tried the lspci said no file detected and for the re installing on no not every time only 4 so i guess its not going to solve a thing re-installing so off to try this other driver

oh lol i have grown children! this is a breeze hehe
 
Old 12-07-2003, 12:12 AM   #24
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i still think it will help us a bit more, if you could post your XF86-config and the error log file. no monitor/screen found is pretty much the symptom, and we cant figure out the cause without knowing what happend.

did u run lspci as root?

the xf86-config file - when u ran it using "vesa" i hope u had both 'dri" and "glcore" enabled under the modules section?
and when ur using the ati drivers, i think you should disable those 2.

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Old 12-07-2003, 12:15 AM   #25
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boohoo now what?

i tried the generic driver for ati 16bit still same error no screen! im frustrated now what! i don't know what to do here. i'm totally dumb here but i was wondering does this no matching device section for instance (Bus ID PCI:2:0:1 mean anything? im really on an agp do i need to change something in the bios? and then dma is enabled on c drive ? or is it just a driver i need?
 
Old 12-07-2003, 12:22 AM   #26
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ok ok

im going back and trying every generic driver every display setting ..come morning if you hear bouncing noises ...that's me bouncing off the walls

Helpppppp

and ps

thanks all so much for helping me!
 
Old 12-07-2003, 12:25 AM   #27
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take a break. call one of your kids, and tell em to write down what they see from xf86-config, and its error log. then run "lspci" as root, and tell em to copy it down too. then ask em to do some cool, and type it out over here.
 
Old 12-07-2003, 12:26 AM   #28
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we're taking up a lot of e-space here, and i dont know how much help can be given without seeing those files, elizma
 
Old 12-07-2003, 12:37 AM   #29
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me again *G* I don't use the radeon card anymore, but found an old config with it in on a backup cd here's what I think is relevant
Code:
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

    Load        "dbe"  	# Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "speedo"
#    Load        "freetype"
#    Load        "xtt"

# This loads the GLX module
    Load       "glx"
# This loads the DRI module
#    Load       "dri"

EndSection
Code:
Section "Monitor"

    Identifier  " LCD"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    HorizSync   31.5 - 64.3

#    HorizSync	30-64         # multisync
#    HorizSync	31.5, 35.2    # multiple fixed sync frequencies
#    HorizSync	15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    VertRefresh 60

EndSection
******above is only for an LCD display ************************

Code:
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
    Identifier	"Standard VGA"
    VendorName	"Unknown"
    BoardName	"Unknown"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

#    Chipset	"generic"

# The Driver line must be present.  When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module.  Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

    Driver     "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for.  When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device.  For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used.  This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.

#    BusID      "PCI:0:10:0"

#    VideoRam	256

#    Clocks	25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Device configured by xf86config:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "** ATI Radeon (generic)               [radeon]"
    Driver      "radeon"
    #VideoRam    65536
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "** ATI Radeon (generic)               [radeon]"
    Monitor     "LCD"
    DefaultDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present.  Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised.  A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option.  In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens.  The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen.  In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

    Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used.  Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
#    InputDevice "Mouse2" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

# Section "DRI"
#    Mode 0666
# EndSection
I'm sure this was a usable conf file for the 9800, or why would I have backed it up.
HTH.
 
Old 12-07-2003, 04:09 PM   #30
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it really doesn't work so ...

I tried pretty much everything I know to do I got a couple of the error reports but some of the commands just flat don't work they repeat over and over file and/or directory not available From what I can tell it simply comes down to it doesn't recognize my video card back to original problem of still no screen the lspci i think gave me one of these 2 the other was from some commands i found online or maybe even in the rute linux manual i found here that im currently studying from page one so will be awhile before i get far enough to know what to do.
ok i dont know if you need all of this will post a few samples of the video cards, the error reported printed out as you can see none of them are the radeon 9600 pro although i have that driver on a cdrom lol what to do with it..: its rpm..
00.00.0 Host bridge:nVidia corp. Nforce2 Agp (different version?) (revc1)
00.00.1 Ram Mem: nVidia Corp. NForce2 Memory controller 1 (revc1)
00.00.2 " " " " " " " " " 4(revc1)
00.00.3 repeat again 3 "
00.00.4 repeat again 2 "
00.00.5 repeat again 1 (revc1)
00.01.0 Isa bridge" nVidiaCorp. nforce2 ISA bridge (rev a 4)
00.01.1 SMBus: nVidiaCorp nForce2 SMBus (mcp) (rev a 2)
00.01.1 Usb controller: nVidia corp nforce2 usb controller
00.02.2 repeat (rev a 4 )
00.04.0 ethernet controller: nVidia Corp. nforce 2 ethernet controller (rev a 1)
00.060 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corp. nforce2 AC 97 Audio controller (MCP) (rev a 1)
00.08.0 Pci bridge: nvidia corp nforce2 external pci bridge (rev a 3)
00.09.0 IDE interface: nvidia corp. nforce2 ide (rev a 2)
00.10.0 pci bridge: nvidia corp. nforce 2 agp
01.07.0 parallel controller: siig Inc cyber parallel (1-port)
01:08.0 communications controller: 5610 56K fax modem Winmodem
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies Inc
Unknow device 4150
02.00.1 Display Controller: ATi TEchnologies Inc: Unknow Device 4170

Next error report:
ATI radeon 9000 If (agp) ati radeon 9000 Ig (agp)
ati radeon mobility m9 ld (agp) ati radeon mobility m9 lg (agp)

goes on to list several other brands of ati video cards none 9600 or 9800 all others i believe just might be in this!
(II) Primary Device is: Pci 02:00:0
(--) Assigning Device section with no bus ID to primary device
(WW) No matching Device section for instance (BUS ID pci: 2:0:1) found
(EE) No Devices detected
Fatal Server error: no screens found
 
  


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