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Old 07-28-2002, 01:53 PM   #1
Milkman00
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Question I would like YOUR input on what I should do NEXT!!! :)


Hi everyone!

I am new to Linux, and I want to learn more and more and more. But I need some suggestions on what I should do next... Here are some of the things I have done thus far:

I have an IP Masquerading firewall, and worked to make it secure.
I have compiled several programs from source, and installed them
I have created users, etc.
I have recompiled my kernel
I have modified my startup scripts to only contain what I need.

etc. etc...

What should I do next that will give me some good experience with command line stuff. When I feel I am pretty good and fluent with the command line, I will move to doing stuff with Xwindows, which I have already been playing with as well.

I know this is a strange request, but any good input will be appreciated as I want to learn stuff!
 
Old 07-28-2002, 02:03 PM   #2
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Start installing some server progs and make them secure?
Qmail can be a real "fun" to install
 
Old 07-28-2002, 02:11 PM   #3
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OK - I love the idea...

I guess Qmail is some kind of mail program (I am smart aren't I!!!) - what other "server" programs would you suggest???

Thanks for the help!
 
Old 07-28-2002, 02:17 PM   #4
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Qmail is a mail server. Be carefule when installing it and read all the INSTALL files there are...
Other servers you may try: apache (quite easy, maybe harder with some extra modules), one of the ftp servers (maybe protoftpd?), dns server (the most popular is bind)...
 
Old 07-28-2002, 02:30 PM   #5
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1 - insert w98 CD. format c:/
2 - destroy and trash Linux CD's
3 - get a Linux book and read from cover to end
 
Old 07-28-2002, 02:54 PM   #6
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fun city

I learned a lot and felt smart and patient (altho I didnt act that way) after installing LimeWire , because of the JRE thing mainly.
It was a bear, about like sound support
 
Old 07-30-2002, 01:24 PM   #7
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I'd have to say.....build and LFS system. You really learn to use the console, a lot about compiling and optimizations plus in the end you have your own custom Linux distro. I have just started mine and it is lots of fun and I already leanred a lot.
 
Old 07-30-2002, 05:38 PM   #8
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You can continue to PLAY with your Linux space

OR

You can figure out what you really want to DO with your Linux space.

I mean, it's an OS, not a plaything, and there are plenty of apps to do whatever it is that you want to do -- so USE it .

I've used this parallel before, but I'll use it again. Let's say you have a wood chisel. You sharpen it on your bench grinder all day long until there's nothing left but the handle. Somewhere along the way you may have actually made it sharper, but by doing nothing but grinding it, the chisel is no longer useful and in fact is no longer a chisel.

Use this thing called Linux, it's not a sharpening contest .
 
Old 07-30-2002, 05:45 PM   #9
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An old fashioned Unix-style benchtools analogy.
I like that .
 
Old 07-30-2002, 06:41 PM   #10
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jglen490, actually, you're beginning to sound like one of my college teachers. Every time he said, "it's not play, it's work." )
 
Old 07-31-2002, 08:56 AM   #11
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I'm glad you didn't say "old" college teacher, jetblackz !!

Nah, it's not work -- I thoroughly enjoy using my Linux space, but I use it. My kids and my wife use Windoze, but I gave up Windoze one year for Lent and haven't gone back . And yes, occasionally, I do sharpen my Linux space, but THAT'S not a full-time job.
 
Old 08-04-2002, 12:10 AM   #12
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Apache
 
Old 08-04-2002, 12:19 AM   #13
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agree with jglen... what's the fun in it if it can't be used? since it can be used, use it!
 
Old 08-04-2002, 09:33 AM   #14
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All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.



By all means, play around . . . break things, fix them again, break something, fix it . . . pretty soon you'll find that you've learned a great deal and had fun in the process.

One of the reasons I've begun the transition from Windows to Linux is because I like the flexibility. Linux gives you lots of choices and lets you tweak and customize to your heart's content - just consider the number of 'flavors' available in Linux.
For every application offered by Windows, you get at least 3 or 4 options with Linux. Unless you 'play' with things, you've no way of knowing which one best suits your needs and your personal tastes.

"Playing" with something can be, for many people (myself included), the best way of learning and mastering it. In educational circles, it's called the hands-on approach.

So go for LFS or BYO Linux. I haven't started either of these yet (waiting for my DSL service to get set up, in the meantime I'm stuck with using a Winmodem in Windows), but I've been reading through the instructions and it looks to me like BYO Linux might be a little easier to follow.

I'm a real newbie myself and congratulate you on actually recompiling your kernel - something I have on my list of things to do eventually. But I also intend to have a lot of fun playing with and learning Linux - if all I could do was sit in front of my monitor and do what the defaults allow, then I might as well stick with Windows.
 
Old 08-09-2002, 06:30 PM   #15
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OK - Here is all I have to say so far...

MARA - Thanks for the suggestions. I am going to try them all, probably a DNS server being one of the first.

JETBLACKZ - Thanks for wasting my time. I want to learn by doing, not reading. I wouldn't mind reading if I could find a good book, but I haven't yet (bought 3)

LACRIMAE - Will look into it - THANKS! - And yes - sound was a royal pain to get working!

ROOTMAN147 - Can you give me a little more detail about what you are referring to? It looks interesting

JGLEN490 - I like what you are saying, and believe it or not, that is my ultimate goal. But before I use Linux as a primary operating system, I want to learn as much as I can about it. right now, if I have to format and start again - NO BIG DEAL - because it is not my primary computer. I hope that makes sense. I do, in the end, want Linux to be the main OS I use.

RVERLANDER - Thanks! On the list!

CATBERT - I have been playing with computers for a very long time, and the best way I have found to learn is to break and fix again! Which is why I am doing as much experimenting as I can, so that I can get more experience. Elaborate on LFS or BYO Linux, as I have never heard of either of the terms. The defaults that Linux installs with, is quite "vanilla", so I hope to change these defaults and make it more "mine", while at the same time - LEARNING!!!
 
  


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