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Old 12-14-2016, 07:19 PM   #16
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You are not being terribly abused. What you are is obstinate.

Here is an entire list of security based operating systems. A bunch of "experts" helped make this list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securi...erating_system

Here is a top ten list of security based distros with explanation and descriptions.

http://www.itproportal.com/2016/02/0...urity-distros/

From there you are on your own. You've been given plenty of pointers and starting points. To be taken seriously you have to put in the effort on your own.

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Old 12-14-2016, 07:31 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by droid.c3p0 View Post
I am absolutelly disapointed that you continue to abuse me.
1. My question obviously has answer only if anybody has experiense with one or more Linux/es of this kind and would like to answer to me. So I know my question may be answered, but may be not.
2. I prefer to have answer from any experienced users, if there is at least one. Only I know what I have been serch and what I have been read.
3. All your answers are abuse against me, and all of you that continue to abuse me, obviiously have not experience to answer me just this simple way:
- experienced user 678 - I recommend linux ABCDEFGH because it is a privacy one.
I don't need anything more.
All of your comments are terrible abuse against to me.
I don't like no one of you commented above to ansewer to me never!
Before I am a newbie about Linux, I am a Human, I don't deserve this terrible abuse from all of you.
(Wince!) "Ouch ... you are a 'newbie', aren't you?"

At this point, you have two choices:
  • Gather up your marbles, and go home.
  • Shut up and listen.

I said: "(1) Shut up(!), and (2) listen.(!!)"

Your choice. This community is trying to help you. But, if you don't wish to be helped, please take your marbles with you.

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Old 12-14-2016, 09:31 PM   #18
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Underneath the various desktop environments that make Linux distros look different, Linux is Linux. The security tools that are available for one Linux distro are generally available for all, at least for all major distros. (There may be some minor distros whose maintainers have mucked things up.)

A web search for "hardening Linux" may help you out.

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"Secure and private Linuxes"? Those days are long gone, IMO.
Non-Linux would be FreeBSD. Doesn't matter.
One bad user 'habit' and Security is out the door.
Habitual is quite correct in saying that the BSDs are generally considered to be the most secure operating systems of all. If you want to experiment with FreeBSD, I can commend the FreeBSD handbook as the single best piece of computer documentation I have ever seen. If you follow the instructions, you can make FreeBSD work for you. TruOS (used to be PC-BSD) is a FreeBSD derivation designed specifically for desktop use; it works quite nicely.

I disagree with the first line that I quoted from Habitual's post, to the extent that it implies that Linux is somehow inherently insecure, but I agree wholeheartedly with the last line of the bit that I quoted; the weakest link in computer security is now and has always been the user. All the software security in the world cannot defend against user clicking on a dodgy link or following the instructions in a fraudulent email.

Just my two cents.

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Old 12-15-2016, 07:09 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by droid.c3p0 View Post
I am absolutelly disapointed that you continue to abuse me.
1. My question obviously has answer only if anybody has experiense with one or more Linux/es of this kind and would like to answer to me. So I know my question may be answered, but may be not.
Yes, we all do, and have even told you two.
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2. I prefer to have answer from any experienced users, if there is at least one. Only I know what I have been serch and what I have been read.
And how can we know this, since you have not shown us any of this effort, even when asked?
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3. All your answers are abuse against me, and all of you that continue to abuse me, obviiously have not experience to answer me just this simple way:
- experienced user 678 - I recommend linux ABCDEFGH because it is a privacy one.
And again, you were given two distros that do just that, and again, until you define 'privacy' and 'security' in some sort of context, we can't help.
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I don't need anything more.
All of your comments are terrible abuse against to me.
I don't like no one of you commented above to ansewer to me never!
Before I am a newbie about Linux, I am a Human, I don't deserve this terrible abuse from all of you.
You do need more; you need to grow up. "Terrible abuse", when we ask you to define your question??? If you want someone to spoon-feed you things, then you're out of luck. If you want to act like a grown-up, realize when you've done something in error, and RECTIFY it to work with others, then welcome.

AGAIN, since you've either missed it or ignored it because you're so very 'abused', is that if you put in "anonymous web browser" into Google, you'll see lots, from VPN services to TOR. Same with Linux security, there are THOUSANDS of how-to guides. Until you pick a direction, and ask a question that has an answer (such as "I've tried to use TOR browser version XXX, but am getting this error. Also, I've followed this hardening guide YYYY...is this good?"), it's best you stay away from such 'terrible abusers'....
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:54 AM   #20
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To everybody who spammed and trolled my question:
I know that my question can be answered only from experienced users, who are used some privacy or/and secure Linuxes.
I will never accept any answer that abuse me, or tries to destroy my human dignity.
I will only accept as experienced answers of this type:
- user 999, I have used Linux L-I-N-U-X and it is privacy/security one.
Plese stop to troll me, and stop to spam my correct question. If it is possible, delete all the answers, I don't like them. If here is really experienced in privacy/security distributions, to answer my question in described above way. I don't need anything else. All the trolls and spammers, who destroyed my question are not welcome here. Goodbye for them!
If I decide to go Home, it will be because here no experienced answer for me. I don't care about trolls and spammers!
 
Old 12-15-2016, 09:33 AM   #21
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To everybody who spammed and trolled my question:
Wrong; your question was not only answered, several times, but you were asked to provide more information (which you DID NOT and STILL HAVE NOT). So you've spammed the site with a pointless question with no context.
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I know that my question can be answered only from experienced users, who are used some privacy or/and secure Linuxes.
Wrong again. You are STILL NOT PAYING ATTENTION or just aren't understanding what you're being told. We can't speak more simply to you than we have; your question CANNOT BE ANSWERED IN THE CONTEXT YOU'VE ASKED IT, PERIOD...EVER. Again, ANY Linux distro can be secured, and ANY Linux distro can have anonymous web capabilities...just like Windows or Mac's can be secured.
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I will never accept any answer that abuse me, or tries to destroy my human dignity.
Again, grow up; if you want to whine about how you're 'abused', go elsewhere. You're acting like a five year old who doesn't get his way..."EVERYONE IS MEAN TO ME, BECAUSE THEY ASK ME TO DO THINGS!!!!"
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I will only accept as experienced answers of this type:
- user 999, I have used Linux L-I-N-U-X and it is privacy/security one.
Then go accept the answer on another forum; you obviously can't read/understand what you've been told. Again, I PERSONALLY handed you two terms to look at...and you obviously haven't. I told you about an anonymous browser...which you haven't looked up. szboardstretcher gave you a search which TELLS YOU what you're after, and you just had to click it. Yet none of these things are 'acceptable' to you??? Tough...we are not here to babysit you. Show effort, and modify your question/behavior, or go elsewhere.
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Plese stop to troll me, and stop to spam my correct question. If it is possible, delete all the answers, I don't like them. If here is really experienced in privacy/security distributions, to answer my question in described above way. I don't need anything else. All the trolls and spammers, who destroyed my question are not welcome here. Goodbye for them! If I decide to go Home, it will be because here no experienced answer for me. I don't care about trolls and spammers!
And we don't care about you and your whining. Correct your question, and show some actual effort
 
Old 12-15-2016, 09:51 AM   #22
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Obviously here are not experienced users, so I am so clever to go out of here!
So I will ask 2 last questions:
1. May I delete my account from LQ.org ?
2. May I delete my question from LQ.org ?
Plese don't answer me that these questions are asked wrong - this is not a correct way!
Plese don't redirect me to Google - this is not a correct way!
 
Old 12-15-2016, 10:07 AM   #23
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I'd like to remind all members to be polite to each other and to not post unless the post is intended to be useful.

I would like ALL of the aggressive behavior stopped.

Please report the first instance of rudeness, rather than attempting to self-police postings, and remember to try to be polite and helpful to all users.

droid.c3p0, please review the guidelines on regarding how to ask effective questions.
 
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:38 AM   #24
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It's likely that looking into security 'focused distributions' won't really gain you much. But as others have said, it's best to search and research that.

For privacy it's mostly about your web browsing habits and how much you care about the "trail" you leave. You can be a privacy conscious user running Windows, you just need the right mindset and approach. Browsers, out of the box, are not configured for privacy - in fact they're usually configured for tracking and data mining. It's really up to you as to what level you take this to. It might be that you get what you want with managing cookies, script blocking, etc or you might need something like the tor browser. It depends on you.

'Security' is subjective. How secure do you want to be? And again the most secure system, will not necessarily deliver you the most privacy optimised web browser - preconfigured - nor anonymisation by default...
 
Old 12-15-2016, 10:44 AM   #25
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http://distrowatch.com/table.php?dis...parrotsecurity
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=qubes
 
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:57 AM   #26
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"Privacy" and "Security" are basically de facto parts of Linux OS's. To not be is a exception.
Also, it's software that can be insecure. So install a minimal distribution, install only older but well tested software.

I should note that most "Security" distributions will often also have a focus on penetration testing as it's often about making sure other computers are secure.

So here's your free advice.
Install Debian as a minimal install using the "stable" branch. (Use this net install iso?)
Then don't install anything that uses the network, don't use a web browser. In fact, just remove all network hardware from your computer.

This would be considered to be a "private" and "secure" setup.
If you think that's too much, understand that you are now compromising between "security" and "privacy" for actual usability.
 
Old 12-15-2016, 11:10 AM   #27
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"Privacy" and "Security" are basically de facto parts of Linux OS's.
Well not necessarily. For example most distributions do not install a hardened kernel or use SELinux/grsec by default. Distributions such as Debian usually don't have iptables configured securely by default.
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:31 PM   #28
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Please consider that new members may not be native English speakers or they may have limited technical ability. It is always difficult to fully communicate in writing.

Some of the members may be windows users too. (attempt at joke)

I have found that for the most part, LQ has been one of the most friendly sites. We need to try to keep it that way.

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Old 12-16-2016, 03:17 AM   #29
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Please consider that new members may not be native English speakers or they may have limited technical ability. It is always difficult to fully communicate in writing.
....
I am not a native English speaker and I have limited technical ability. For me is more easy to write/read on English, than to speak and to understand what the English - speaker sais - for example on TV.
There is Google translator between languages, but it can not translate correct often, sometimes translates terrible - the transated text can not be accepted as completed sentence.
 
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Old 12-17-2016, 12:13 AM   #30
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I have tried these distributions and they are security based. Some of them are built with privacy in mind.
  • AlpineLinux
  • Annvix
  • BlackArchLinux
  • CopperheadOS
  • Debian
  • EnGardeSecureLinux
  • Fedora
  • HardenedGentoo
  • HardenedLinux
  • Immunix
  • KaliLinux
  • Mempo
  • OpenwallProject
  • ParrotSecurityOS
  • PentooProject
  • QubesOS
  • Replicant
  • RedHatEnterprise
  • SubgraphOS
  • Tails
  • TinHat
  • UbuntuPrivacyRemix
  • Whonix
  • IprediaOS
  • LibertéLinux
  • SecurityOnion

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