Wine for noobs is called cedega and crossover office. They are dirt cheap compared to windows and I find it amazing that people don't want to pay for them, especially when you compare their price the the price of the games and software that people run on them...

And I use them, as well as 'real' WINE, depending on what I want to do. Each has their strengths and weaknesses, and I've been using linux and wine from each of their early days...

yyahmee, warez are not welcome here. LQ rules clearly state:
That's why I ahve edited you post. Please don't do this again.

Yes. The Cedega DirectX libraries convert the Windows app's DirectX9 calls into OpenGL calls.

How much is Cedega then? Doesn't this mean that it's not actually opensource which means it's not in the spirit of linux? I'm not complaining and if it's cheap enough I would probably use it but I've moved to linux for the open sourceness... I like fiddling with code

I think the minimum subscription to cedega is about $15, though you can pay more if you want. It's $5/month and that allows you to download the latest version, but you get to keep whatever you download as long as you want. The ease of things like point2play make this worthwhile IMO...

Now, they base their work on wine, which is OSS, so the developements they make, and you support, go back into the free wine project eventually, so you are really still supporting free software.

And if you want to get your teeth into code eventually, WINE is coming along quite well. I use it as well for certain apps, esp those already installed on a win partition for example...

I've been using linus since kernel 1.2 at least, but I still like nice easy things like crossover and cedega at times

Like amosf said, minimum is $5/month for 3 months. I let my subscrition lapse after Christmas, but the only game I use it for works fine, and they won't be putting any more effort into that....

Yeah, the DirecX stuff is proprietary, but everything else is based off WINE, and is fed back to the WINE project, so that's not too bad. Besides, if someone is *that* concerned about using only *Free* software, they wouldn't be running any Windows apps anyway.

Pathetic.

1. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1377 -- I don't need Cedega.

2. The problem before was that I downloaded the TAR.GZ to a folder owned by root so then I downloaded it to a regular user's desktop now that my Internet is at a good speed again. I extracted it and ran /.configure. That came out fine. When I ran make depend && make at the end I got the following:

make[2]: Entering directory `/home/notroot/Desktop/wine-20050111/dlls/msi'
bison -p SQL_ -d ./sql.y -o sql.tab.c
"./sql.y", line 71: junk after `%%' in definition section
make[2]: *** [sql.tab.c] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/notroot/Desktop/wine-20050111/dlls/msi'
make[1]: *** [msi] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/notroot/Desktop/wine-20050111/dlls'
make: *** [dlls] Error 2

When I type in wine I get bash: wine: command not found

notroot... original, I know.

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Wine works, but cedega and point2play make it easy for newbies... Also cedega handles the screen res changes better with many games. It's a choice...

Also note that wine is often best (or requires) with games that are already installed and running. Cedega and Point2play do a very nice job of installing the game on it's on little virtual windows drive, which is a great idea. It makes the game easy to install from linua - NO windows needed at all - and it means the game does not affect any other game or is affected by any other game. It also make removal instant and easy and problem free. Well worth the money.

If I got Cedega how would that help me learn Linux?

It won't. It's just a program to run Windows apps under Linux.

Linux is just a OS, or in the case of a distro a complete computer desktop system. Primarily for me it's some to use my computer to do things on. You can learn as well if you want, but a computer is there to do things on, like tax, games, whatever... If you want an easy way to run a windows game on linux, then cedega is it!

Nobody has anything to say but "GET CEDEGA!"?!

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